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I'm looking for a new instance since lemm.ee is closing by the end of the month. What's a good instance to be on these days?

I'm looking for a instance with the fewest trolls, bots, and anyone that likes to take things to the extremes.

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[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Depends; Closest thing to lemm.ee? Maybe lemmy.zip?

Here's my own choices:

  • lemmy.dbzer0.com (totally unbiased ๐Ÿ˜)
  • lemmy.zip
  • quokk.au (not lemmy, piefed)
  • sopuli.xyz

Dbzer0 and zip are probably the closest thing to lemm.ee in terms of defederation.

[โ€“] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago

Can lemmy use a different subdomain for authentication?

Unless it does, lemmy.zip is behind cloudflare and all of the passwords are going through a different entity, whether users like it or not.

I would rather not.

[โ€“] doctortran@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Problem isn't so much defederation policy in and of itself, as much as it is just the general level-headedness of the admins

Lemm.ee's lead admin had exactly the type of philosophy towards managing this platform that I want to see in wherever I go next.

This post alone is what convinced me to create a primary account there. It's professional, level-headed, nuanced, well spoken, and you can tell they've actually thought a lot about the big picture in an unbiased way. Not aggressive, preachy, standoffish, snarky, snobbish, and above all, not reactionary. Seeing the instance as infrastructure is what I want to see more of, but I also just want to see admins with this attitude overall.

[โ€“] rglullis 2 points 16 hours ago

Seeing the instance as infrastructure is what I want to see more of

Yes, exactly! A good manager to me is the one that is just focused on solving the problems that are on the way of the rest of the team.

[โ€“] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately that philosophy led them to close down their instance due to burnout, so maybe it's not exactly a winning one ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I beg you, please take care of yourself if it's needed, take time off, relax, get help from others. I think you have a philosophy to not take money out of the donations, but speaking as one of the contributors, I think that's unfair considering the amount of work you put in.

What I'm saying is just do what it takes to not let it lead to burnout. I don't think anyone that understands the value of this instance would mind.

[โ€“] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 20 hours ago

I'm not close to burnout but thanks for the concern. I don't run my instance like lemm.ee does for a reason ;)

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 1 day ago

Fingers crossed, but we also know Lemmy might not be ready for that type of philosophy. I mean I still don't know what exactly happened, but lemm.ee wasn't successful in the end. And the underlying issues are still there. So the next admin team might face the same dynamics.

[โ€“] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Any website or service that utilizes the .zip TLD ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ

I'm sure there are great websites and services that utilize it, but I have a strong opinion that the TLD should have never been put out there for people to use. I block all .zip TLD domains with no exceptions; and so unfortunately, I cannot use lemmy.zip.

To be fair, I have no real opinions about lemm.ee. It was one of the instances that had the most users when I joined Lemmy, and as far as I'm aware it hasn't received any real negative press.

I'm more bothered about seeing or being associated with spam and/or an instance full of toxic people. I'm not a spicy person - or so I'd like to think.

[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Iโ€™m more bothered about seeing or being associated with spam and/or an instance full of toxic people. Iโ€™m not a spicy person - or so Iโ€™d like to think.

Zip's a very trustworthy instance, all admins know about it; so i doubt anything wrong will happen in that regard ๐Ÿ˜‰

[โ€“] tisktisk@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

is the TLD just aesthetically unpleasing or are there technical issues with zip archive files? Curious to know how one can judge one TLD over others just b/c I've never really thought ab it until now

[โ€“] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just gonna pitch in here, but I'm no expert. I was reading people's reactions when that TLD was introduced, and they raised concerns over the possibility that a bad actor could spoof an address that actually downloads a .zip file to your device when you click the link, even though you may assume it's an address to a page. No idea what a hypothetical virus could do from a compressed environment, but thats what I remember reading.

Sorry to any experts if I'm muddying the waters with a dumb take!

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wikipedia also offers some (limited) information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.zip_(top-level_domain)

[โ€“] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah that's the exact reason why I dislike the .zip TLD, and the same goes for .mov. The TLDs can be easily abused to look like something they're not to trick people into visiting their website that downloads something malicious.

[โ€“] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you saw ChromeUpdate202506.zip, then what do you believe it is? A downloadable update for Chrome or a website?

What if a malicious person has purchased that domain and filled the website with something malicious, a virus, an info stealer, etc?

I block the .zip TLD because the domains can be used maliciously. Within the first few days there were hundreds/thousands of domains registered with names to look like zip files for updating software and the like.

I also block the .mov TLD for the exact same reason.

Sure on a good day you can spot the malicious intent from a mile away, but I like to protect for when I'm having a bad day. I also block the TLDs for the whole family as well because unfortunately they're not as tech savvy or meticulous.

[โ€“] dil@piefed.zip 3 points 23 hours ago

could just let only lemmy.zip and piefed.zip through and avoid the issues still

[โ€“] gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

+1

I picked dbzer0 myself.

[โ€“] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know the admin team at db0 can be interesting at times.

[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought I'd be able to come with something funny but apparently I can't on the spot so no it's just a dumb reference to you being on the admin team there.

[โ€“] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You regularly post interesting (and sometimes funny) content!

Yeah I've got nothing either. Kind of one of the reasons I'm on db0 actually.

[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

Thanks ๐Ÿ˜Š

Db0 isn't like lemm.ee they defederated more readily and instance ban people for not having a left bias.

[โ€“] ByteMe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's different about .zip? ๐Ÿค”

[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)
  • Great admins. I've talked to demigodrick and he's a good fellow
  • Monthly transparent reports about the instance
  • Image proxying
  • Relaxed defederation policy

Only negative thing i can name is that it blocks the UK, because of a law they don't want to risk