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So a newbie just popped out, liking the project, posing politely, feeling logically lost because there is so much out there and structured differently (everything you need to add points to the level of confusion), asking for suggestions on how they can arrange something quickly for their context to be able to start using it right away and make do as needed...
Then you come in, the elipsian version of the classic elitist piece of crap on Arch Linux.
I just want to sincerely assure OP that the community here is generally friendly and positive, dickheads like 'this individual who feel like berating for nothing instead of moving on uninteresting topics, are a distinct minority.
New to Emacs doesn't mean "new to life".
Ugh, I hate to defend someone with "it was just a joke", but I do think he was lightly mocking the OP's approach.
The link is also worth sharing with new folks—they WILL get better information if they learn to look for stuff on their own, and if new folks do a lot of research BEFORE they ask in a forum, they'll understand their question better as well.
All that said, while I don't think he was being a total dickhead, yeah, it would be nicer if people shared that folks should do their own research in a kinder way.
Either way, though, thanks for calling him out and making me think about how we approach newcomers!
The GP's response is very curmudgeonly and feels like the poster asked a question on Stack Overflow.
A mocking response also doesn't count as a joke response. A joke response would be good-natured and not at the expense of the poster. I agree that it is more of a mocking. And mocking new users isn't a helpful form of discourse - no matter how tired someone is of their style of questions.
I do appreciate that your response was much more earnest and trying to engage with the poster.
Yeah, you've convinced me... let's not make fun of new people!
... I guess that shouldn't be a controversial stance. Whoops!
That dickhead, despite his handle, is not particularly good at elisp and is particularly *bad* at putting people down. If you really want to feel like shit, the Clerk of Copmanhurst is happy to oblige.
This has been removed, as it is not very civil; please attack ideas, not people.
The question lent itself to both earnest and humorous replies, and it duly received both, so this seems very unnecessary. If you don't think a joke is funny, down-vote it and move on.