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This viral video has people talking about Christianity versus ‘MAGA Christianity’
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The Bible is also abundantly clear about being misogynist and homophobic (even in the New Testament). Skipping over those parts gives an evil book/religion a pass. Fuck Christianity.
its always been about power and control. A population in fear of eternal damnation is easier to manipulate.
In the New Testament, that stuff all comes from Paul. Paul was a conservative asshole. He was the first evangelical Christian, in both the historical and modern sense.
Fuckin Paul, bro. Imo, evangelicals worship him as their savior way more than Jesus
There's a defensible argument that Paul invented Christianity. Jesus (whoever he was historically) does not appear to have intended to produce a separate religion from Judaism. Paul did that.
It's not a complete slam dunk, but even if you don't buy it, it's still very apparent that Paul was the central figure in shaping what Christianity would become.
Yeah, it's very clear that Jesus taught with a very heavy emphasis on Judaism, and had no intention whatever of applying his teaching to gentiles. You don't really see that happening until after his death.
Yep. It's also kinda curious how many boxes Paul ticks of the comments about a false deceiver in 2 Thess 2.
Sounds like they were projecting a bit with that passage.
Yup. Also condones slavery.
I don't think this thread is about whether the Bible is a valid moral/ ethical guideline nowadays, but rather if the actions of those who pretend to follow it match it. Which it doesn't.
You seem to have missed my point. The Bible is the holy book for Christianity, and because it's clear on things like homophobia and misogyny we can state that Christianity is pro those things. When people say that MAGA Christians are not behaving like real Christians, they are being dishonest and putting a pretty face on an evil thing. Their actions help keep the bronze age bullshit bad people use to justify their behavior around.
I'm very tired of the general societal belief that Christianity is actually good and some people are just doing it wrong. Christianity is bad. Its effects on our society are bad. We would be better off if it (and religion in general) went away.
Even that being true, it's readily apparent that Christians always choose which scriptures to highlight. The fundamentalist ones will say you must take the whole bible or nothing, but that's not how they behave. Not at all.
Let's assume the homophobic translation of Romans 1 is the correct one. Is any given Christian talking about that, or are they talking about being kind to the poor, pointing out the hypocrisy of religious leaders, or that the literal, obvious interpretation of "rich men can't get through the eye of a needle" is the correct one? There's so many scriptures they could be highlighting, and it's conspicuous that they choose to make a homophobic one really, really important to them.
MAGA Christians tend to get very angry if you point this out. The usual responses are along the lines of "you only know a few cherry picked scriptures as talking points" or "you atheists would burn alive if you actually read the bible".
This would be a much easier argument if the Bible were less self-contradictory.
Maybe they do behave like real Christians in that regard, but not in others, which for a religion is enough to not be in line with it, it's not a choose your own adventure
The homophobia was likely a mistranslation. The misogyny isn't though. It's not evil in and of it's self. It's stupid and useful for controlling the stupid. Still fuck it but fuck the Baptists extra deep
"Likely" is a pretty strong statement when scholars aren't in agreement (based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romans_1, I did not read a bunch of articles myself). Saying it's not evil when it advocates for evil things doesn't track for me, but it seems we're on the same page about Christianity in general.
From my understanding of the argument the Leviticus line is probably wrong in the King James versions and the opposition are mostly against mistranslations existing conceptually. Haven't read in a long while though. It's a tool mostly bad people pick up. Those who seek power, etc, etc....