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There's no good reason for them to be on the road. Consider the following:

  • They're extremely loud and cause noise pollution

  • They're very dangerous on the road and have high accident rates

  • They're bad for the environment and cause air pollution

  • They're extremely inefficient as they can only carry 1-2 people max

  • They can't carry cargo

  • They're dangerous for pedestrians

  • They're very demanding to operate

  • They're virtually useless in the winter when there's snow, ice, and hail

  • The people who tend to drive them tend to be assholes who don't respect road laws

People complain about cars all the time, and while our car dependency is definitely a big issue that we need to address, cars still have a lot utility. Motorcycles on the other hand? Not really. I think getting rid of them once and for all is good way to immediately make our roads safer, simplify traffic, and open up a pathway to move away from cars.

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[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago

Yeah, people should have small, quiet, electric motorcycles ridden by educated and defensive drivers with winter tires.

I had a two-stroke motorcycle that I rode to school all year round and yeah, I'd argue for bans on ICEs in motorcycles, harsher noise pollution/road safety laws/monitoring now.

They're extremely loud and cause noise pollution

Combustion engines do that, two-wheeled motor vehicles can be built quiet.

They're very dangerous on the road and have high accident rates

IIRC, most fatal accidents involving motorcycles result in motorcycle driver death, not so much others. Limiting speed or power (especially for young and learning drivers) might reduce fatalities.

They're bad for the environment and cause air pollution

ICE engines. One point for road infrastructure in general (tires, asphalt), although their PM/NOx emissions should be compared to trucks or trains.

They're extremely inefficient as they can only carry 1-2 people max

Inefficient in what way?

They can't carry cargo

I think you know this is a bad argument.

They're dangerous for pedestrians

What motorised vehicle isn't? Which vehicle infrastructure isn't? This one is oddly specific.

They're very demanding to operate

Yes. I always saw that as a good thing, because it meant that I wouldn't drive when I couldn't or shouldn't attention-wise.

They're virtually useless in the winter when there's snow, ice, and hail

Gear, restraint and skill issue. I found autumn rain much more dangerous.

The people who tend to drive them tend to be assholes who don't respect road laws

True that.