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Yeah, that's what we all thought when Biden won.
I called the 2024 election when Biden won in 2020. He was a shitty corporate centrist candidate who was never going to address our deep structural inequality, and so frustrated uneducated people voted for change in 2024. Obama won 2008 because people wanted "Change". Trump won 2016 to drain the swamp. We're all so sick of this crony corporate bullshit.
Socialists or we lose. It should've been obvious all along that the "centrists" and "Libertarians" are just embarrassed Republicans. America has been sick and tired of corporations overtly ruling for decades and moderates don't want to own that.
Voters weren't scared of a dictatorship on day one by a guy quoting Hitler. And at this point, they aren't scared of socialism, not anymore. The only way we win elections is by supporting candidates who are actually good. Even if a moderate wins this election, they'll lose us the next election and the good half will be undone. We can only discount the value of the next election iff our candidate will address our broken elections.
TL;DR: Socialists or we lose.
Biden was right when he said "Nothing will fundamentally change"
How did the swamp draining go?
explodicle didn't mention Trump running on draining the swamp because they believed he would do that or because they support Trump in any way. The point (very clearly) is that even people as uneducated, uninformed, and oblivious as MAGAts can tell that there is something very wrong about how America was being ran, and even they wanted something to change. The fact that Trump lied about draining the swamp and the fact that his intentions was to bring in a sewer to replace it is irrelevant. The fact that they were naive to believe him is irrelevant.
The point is that most of us want actual change, not centrist corporate stooges like Biden and Harris. Whether the people put their faith in the wrong ones to change things in the past is beside the point.
And no, the fact that people showed up in record numbers to vote for Biden in 2020 does not prove this trend is incorrect. At that point Biden was a significant change from Trump in the eyes of many people. He deceived people that he was going to be significantly different in the same way Trump did.
If you are still confused try reading the TL:DR again, "Socialists or we lose." They were 1000% not expecting Trump to actually drain the swamp.
Judging by our last conversation where you blamed the people who voted for Harris for Trump getting elected, this nuance is going to fly right over your head. The fact that you took a comment calling for people to vote for socialist candidates as someone supporting Trump pretty clearly shows you aren't the sharpest potato in the sack.
I also know you are a pro-capitalist, anti-socialist, corporate boot-licker, so it's no surprise people calling for socialist candidates to be elected is against your ideals and you would like to muddy the waters as much as you can, but I think it's clear to everyone you aren't arguing in good faith.
You proving me right in 3...2...1...
Yeah I didn’t think that. Biden was a bandaid that let the wound fester.