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#Starting XI Player Ratings


Player r/fcbayern Sofascore FotMob
Sven Ulreich 7.9 6.7 6.6
Minjae Kim 8.1 7.1 7.3
Matthijs de Ligt 6.9 7.0 7.4
Alphonso Davies 6.8 6.9 7.7
Kondrad Laimer 5.0 6.8 6.9
Joshua Kimmich 7.4 8.2 8.1
Leon Goretzka 7.1 7.9 8.5
Leroy Sané 7.6 7.5 8.0
Kingsley Coman 7.1 7.3 8.0
Jamal Musiala 7.2 7.1 7.8
Harry Kane 7.3 7.5 7.8

 


#Substitute Player Ratings


Player r/fcbayern Sofascore FotMob
Mathys Tel 6.3 6.6 6.0
Bouna Sarr 6.5 6.5 6.1
Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting 5.9 6.6 6.0

 


#Man of the Match


🥇 1. Minjae Kim 🥇

 

Runners up:

🥈 2. Sven Ulreich 🥈

🥉 3. Leroy Sané 🥉

 


#Bayern's Team Performance


🔼 Forwards: 7.4

🔽 Defenders: 6.7

⏹️ Midfielders: 6.4

 

1️⃣ First Half Performance: 7.4

2️⃣ Second Half Performance: 6.1

✅ Overall Team Performance: 6.7

 


#Additional Ratings


🤜🏾 1. FSV Mainz 05's Performance: 6.2

👨🏻‍🏫 Thomas Tuchel: 6.3

🧑🏽‍⚖️ Referee's Performance: 6.7

 


#Goal of the Match


Mainz 0 - [1] Bayern Munich - Kingsley Coman 11'

 

Goal Percentage
0-[1]: ⚽ Kingsley Coman 11' 55.3%
0-[2]: ⚽ Harry Kane 16' 8.5%
[1]-2: ⚽ Anthony Caci 43' 8.5%
1-[3]: ⚽ Leon Goretzka 59' 27.7%

 


Closing comments:

I removed a few troll votes (voting just 2s or 3s instead of 1s doesn't make you harder to spot), which brings us down to 48 responses - about half as many as we had for the last match's poll.

 

Since this came up in the comments after the last poll, just a quick clarification:

 

Q: What's up with the number for defenders team performance, it's not adding up if it's supposed to be the medium.

 

A: They aren't the average, the team performance of the defenders, midfielders, and forwards are all addressed by separate questions in the poll.

Initially, I considered calculating the average score of the ratings for defenders, midfielders, and forwards. But that quickly became too complex when players changed their positions, like when Laimer transitions from RB to CM after a sub, or when Kane spends a large portion of his playing time falling back into the midfield while Goretzka moves up to play as a #9.

I still wanted to keep those ratings in there, though, so I opted to create separate questions for each position.

Take those numbers with a grain of salt - they just serve as a "general impression" from the responders rather than a calculated value!

 

Got any ideas/suggestions on how to improve future polls? Let me know in the comments!

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[–] timothymr@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would love to see the average of the three ratings for the players added to the post but if it's too much hassle then that's fine.

For this match:

Ulreich: 7.06 Minjae: 7.50 De Ligt: 7.10 Davies: 7.13 Laimer: 6.23 Kimmich: 7.90 Goretzka: 7.80 Sané: 7.70 Coman: 7.4 Musiala: 7.3 Kane: 7.5

Tel: 6.30 Sarr: 6.36 Choupo: 6.1

[–] backflash@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Done!

I had been toying with that idea as well. Originally I was interested in the deviation of our score vs. that of an external source (Sofascore), which would look like this:

Player r/fcbayern Sofascore Deviation
Sven Ulreich 7.9 6.7 +1.2
Minjae Kim 8.1 7.1 +1.0

But then I couldn't decide which was better, Sofascore or FotMob - and when I noticed how they scored some players quite differently (up to +/-0.8), I thought that was pretty interesting, so I just kept both in there.

Of course, I could just take their average and calculate the deviation:

Player r/fcbayern Sofascore FotMob Average Sofascore/FotMob Deviation
Sven Ulreich 7.9 6.7 6.6 6.7 +1.2
Minjae Kim 8.1 7.1 7.3 7.2 +0.9

But when it comes to spreadsheets, I tend to pile up information until it's "too much", so I wanted to keep it simple.

 

Adding the overall average, as you suggested, is no problem:

Player r/fcbayern Sofascore FotMob Average
Sven Ulreich 7.9 6.7 6.6 7.1
Minjae Kim 8.1 7.1 7.3 7.5

I guess at the end of the day, it just comes down to what type of information we're most interested in seeing.

[–] GermanyWillWinQtarWC@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally i think showing the deviation between reddits ratings and sofascores or sofascore and fotmobs average is good. It shows what players we are too harsh on and who we cut too much slack. I appreciate the great work as always.

[–] backflash@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I agree that the deviation would give us more to talk about and it would be nice to see those numbers at a glance, rather than having to do the math in your head.