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I feel like half of the blame capitalism gets is valid, but the other half is just society. I don't care what kind of system you're under, you're going to have to deal with other people.
Oh, and if you try the system where you don't have to deal with people, that just means other people end up handling you.
In this case it is purely fault of the money incentive though. Noone would spend so much effort and computation power on AI if they didn't think it could make them money.
The funniest part is though that it's only theoretical anyway, everyone is only losing on it and they're most likely never gonna make it back.
It matters a lot though what kind of goal the system incentivises. Imagine if it was people's happiness and freedom instead of quarterly profits.
It's definitely valid to disagree about point #3, but then you need to give a better model for #1 and #2
The complaint that got blamed on capitalism was:
and if there's one entity/person most responsible for that, it's Putin or the GOP. Most of it is political, and very little to do with capitalism itself. Except that capitalism surrounds and is intertwined with everything.
Still, if you get rid of capitalism, it doesn't get rid of politics. I'd argue that the root of the issue is the GOP trying to hoard power (money and otherwise), and power is going to exist with or without capitalism. Is North Korea capitalist? Do they have issues with disinfo?
This Christian Sharia Law movement doesn't exist for money.
Two of the largest drivers are religion, christians wanting their Sharia Law, and Russia taking political control of the US.
Capitalism is in the top three, sure. It's also part of the driver of that technology.
I don't think we should worship capitalism as we have, but I don't think getting rid of capitalism as a whole solves more problems than it creates.
Give me capitalism with heavy socialist controls and political separation please, thanks. The general idea of using money as a measure of what society owes you isn't terrible. It's allowing that measure to get so out of whack and have such inordinate control of everything that is the problem.
I would give this reddit gold
Instant easy complaints help-i'm-oppressed-by-Capitalism today sound an awful lot like the instant easy complaints help-i'm-oppressed-by-Communism I used to hear from rednecks
Ask someone who starved & died under either system how obviously superior it is, you will find millions on either side
What if i'm being repressed instead?
Also consider that Socialism is totally legal under Capitalism. Want to start a co-op? Go for it. Want to legislate and implement socialized healthcare? Many Capitalist countries have.
Under Communism, Capitalism must be illegal and stamped out by force. Want to start a business making shoes and hire someone to work for an agreed upon wage? Illegal.
When the goal involves guaranteeing positive rights, I'm not sure how it can be achieved without coercion. Which is how any socialist policies get implemented under capitalism anyways.
ofc a lot depends on the precise definitions of terms, state corporatism is not synonymous with generally free markets operating under the regulation of a basically diverse inclusive democracy -- but both are referred to as "capitalism"
The neat part is that anything bad that happens under capitalism is capitalism's fault, but anything good that happens is actually socialism happening in spite of capitalism, somehow.
Socialized healthcare
Socialized healthcare exists there -- at least until the current administration finishes ripping it away
Socialized healthcare isn't socialism...
Interesting.
How about Canada?
Does Canada have socialized healthcare?
Does anywhere?
Is Canada not capitalist?
Sounds like you just realized you proved mine.
Lol can't engage with someone's point? Just call them a simp.
Why did you even engage if you can't walk the walk, lil bro?
Whoever you're shadowboxing there is taking a hell of a beating!
Thanks for exemplifying the "CaPiTaLiSm BaD" person from my original comment so well! The total inability to engage with my comment to the point of inventing a whole new one to argue with was a really nice touch!
Oh wow, "no u".
Devastating comeback.
Lol okay. Have fun LARPing, comrade.
If only you understood anything you were talking about. Oh well!