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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The carrier point is where they connect the persona to the person.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Google/Apple account arguably does worse.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can create a complete new Google account, using a burner phone paid in cash.

However, the PHONE is what is tracked, all the time, on the network.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not wrong, just saying there's a lot of data being stolen from most every device that most people use, regardless of carrier.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, but even that can be worked around. GrapheneOS on a Pixel without any Google services doesn't say a peep to anyone. Graphene even has proxies set up for Android services that may "need" Google. So it is at least possible. You can't stop the carrier from looking inside your pants. Even voice-only mode, the carrier still has telemetry connections established. It used to be they'd keep the data they harvested themselves for network diagnostics and throw it away, then they had government-mandated data harvesting time limits. Although none of that matters when it can just be funneled away and stored forever.

AMPS analog cellular was neat. No reason to keep the phone on. No reason to be contacted. Even if it was on, the privacy radius was huge. Maybe the solution is to replicate that "turn it off" behavior today.