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[–] R_Schuhart@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (26 children)

Steijn should shut up and sit down, he got all the time and opportunity to turn it around. It wouldn't be surprising if one or two people did start to question him and dropped their support, that doesn't automatically make it backstabbing.

[–] Massaman95@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (25 children)

According to Steijn, Maduro had been constantly leaking information from inside the dressing room to ESPN. I'd call that backstabbing honestly

[–] No_Presence200@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Steijn seemed to do the same but with the telegraaf and the fat and stupid ex-Ajax squad

[–] Lannisterling@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’ve been wondering what’s the link there. I can imagine you’d back your former colleagues. But why are guys like Sneijder and Van der Vaart so determined to back Steijn?

[–] ph4ge_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been wondering what’s the link there. I can imagine you’d back your former colleagues. But why are guys like Sneijder and Van der Vaart so determined to back Steijn?

They are not, they are just free thinkers withs lots of experience that dont buy the emotional oversimplifications that the fans want. They all recognise Steijn had to go because he wasnt performing and that Steijn was dealt an impossible hand due to all the chaos, high expectations and lack of quality surrounding him.

[–] Striking_Insurance_5@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Van der Vaart and Sneijder did not think Steijn had to go at all, they were constantly saying that he’s a good manager but that the players are the problem. I have never heard either of them say a bad word about Steijn.

I’d rather look at what people with actual tactical knowledge have to say like Suley or Pieter Zwart instead of the populistic nonsense that comes out of Van der Vaart and Sneijder.

[–] ph4ge_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I’d rather look at what people with actual tactical knowledge have to say like Suley or Pieter Zwart instead of the populistic nonsense that comes out of Van der Vaart and Sneijder. They’re not free thinkers, they don’t really think at all.

That's called cherry picking, and is not a good habit to pick up.

[–] Sunstridr@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because they have good contacts with him, Sneijder and Vd Vaart were close enough to him that they were being actively asked to be one of his assistants.

And Vd Meijde was literally getting most of his recent "scoops" from Steijn.

[–] Lannisterling@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes I understand. But I'm more wondering how it happened. Can't really connect how they became friends. Maybe because they were in the 'zandbak' around the same time?

[–] Sunstridr@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

With Sneijder and Steijn, quite possible, and then Vd Vaart/Vd Meijde via Sneijder.

[–] Aethien@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think they've picked a side (the Dutch side) in a Steijn/Telegraaf vs Mislintat/new players battle they've cooked up.

And we all know Sneijder and Van der Vaart were incredible players but aren't nearly as gifted in the brain department.

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