Steijn should shut up and sit down, he got all the time and opportunity to turn it around. It wouldn't be surprising if one or two people did start to question him and dropped their support, that doesn't automatically make it backstabbing.
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According to Steijn, Maduro had been constantly leaking information from inside the dressing room to ESPN. I'd call that backstabbing honestly
If that s true and remains thats recipe for failure for the next manager
Steijn seemed to do the same but with the telegraaf and the fat and stupid ex-Ajax squad
I’ve been wondering what’s the link there. I can imagine you’d back your former colleagues. But why are guys like Sneijder and Van der Vaart so determined to back Steijn?
I think they've picked a side (the Dutch side) in a Steijn/Telegraaf vs Mislintat/new players battle they've cooked up.
And we all know Sneijder and Van der Vaart were incredible players but aren't nearly as gifted in the brain department.
Because they have good contacts with him, Sneijder and Vd Vaart were close enough to him that they were being actively asked to be one of his assistants.
And Vd Meijde was literally getting most of his recent "scoops" from Steijn.
Yes I understand. But I'm more wondering how it happened. Can't really connect how they became friends. Maybe because they were in the 'zandbak' around the same time?
With Sneijder and Steijn, quite possible, and then Vd Vaart/Vd Meijde via Sneijder.
I’ve been wondering what’s the link there. I can imagine you’d back your former colleagues. But why are guys like Sneijder and Van der Vaart so determined to back Steijn?
They are not, they are just free thinkers withs lots of experience that dont buy the emotional oversimplifications that the fans want. They all recognise Steijn had to go because he wasnt performing and that Steijn was dealt an impossible hand due to all the chaos, high expectations and lack of quality surrounding him.
Van der Vaart and Sneijder did not think Steijn had to go at all, they were constantly saying that he’s a good manager but that the players are the problem. I have never heard either of them say a bad word about Steijn.
I’d rather look at what people with actual tactical knowledge have to say like Suley or Pieter Zwart instead of the populistic nonsense that comes out of Van der Vaart and Sneijder.
I’d rather look at what people with actual tactical knowledge have to say like Suley or Pieter Zwart instead of the populistic nonsense that comes out of Van der Vaart and Sneijder. They’re not free thinkers, they don’t really think at all.
That's called cherry picking, and is not a good habit to pick up.
and the fat and stupid ex-Ajax squad
But specifically who though? There's so many to choose from.
Lol, Sneijder, Van der Vaart and Van der Meijde.
Thanks. Updated the list.
~~Mido, Febo Janssen, Boukhari, Bogarde, Jeroen Verhoeven, Bulykin, Sulejmani~~
This article now is clearly from Steijn. He blames the whole world and can't accept that he lacks skills and insight to be trainer at a club like Ajax. It's very telling that again other people are blamed, and Steijn is the victim. Who do you think called the papers?
Steijn has been setting up excuses for his eventual failure pretty much since day 1.
The thing is I do think there are some valid excuses like he didn't get any of the players he asked for and the whole 'build a squad while the competition is already on its way' thing.
Berghuis and Maduro 'backstabbing' probably came after those two concluded that he's not good enough for ajax. I think that part is bs.
But it wasn't made easy for Steijn, that much is obvious as well.
The players that he wanted, baring Olij, would all have asked for above/significantly above the now salary cap that the board had placed on Mislintat.
And it was known for a long time that we had to sell before bringing anyone in, with Mislintat only getting the go ahead after the first part of the Timber money being officially on the bank balance.
So, sure it wasn't easy for Steijn, but that was because the board was being difficult, not Mislintat.
Oh yes agreed it wasn't just Mislintat. The board made a gigantic mistake with this half baked investing in the squad. We could've had Ziyech and Tagliafico, but we got forbs (nothing against him but he has some stuff to learn) Avila and Sosa. Etc.
Really they could have simply bought less players that cost more instead of so many. Sutalo, vd boomen, Tagliafico, Ziyech, Dest, Maybe go for zerrouki because we needed a dm?
The rest we didn't really 100 percent need! This is also made evident by who's playing now. It's really a lot of players we already had and the new guys are playing only if the spot was really vacant like Sutalo and forbs or if someone is injured.
So the board made a huge gigantic mistake there with the caps. A cheap buy can be an expensive buy!
Eh, Ziyech has been constantly injured for Gala; and while Tagliafico would probably have been a solid addition, he is on more than both of Sosa and Avila combined afaik.
Don't know about that, if I'm completely honest, yes there were some signings that felt like they were being bought to fill up the squad, and it would have been preferable to have done that with youth players, Ajax did lose a lot of players this summer.
Let's not forget that Mikautadze has yet to be played as a striker, Mannsverk has only featured in one game due to Injury, the only time Akpom has started was at Right wing and Ramaj hasn't played because Steijn was angry at not getting Olij.
While I do agree that sometimes a cheap buy can become an expensive one, the only ones that threaten to go that way, are players who Steijn hasn't really given a chance.
Ah Ziyech injured constantly? So the rumours are probably true ok fine not Ziyech then. Paying a bit extra for Tagliafico to get to the cl wouldn't have hurt us though..
And yeah in most players except honestly akpom I see some future at Ajax for. It's just that I mostly see future and not much now that is dragging us down hard this season.
My point around Tagliafico is that Sosa is close to the salary cap, while Tagliafico is on more than both him and Avila combined.
Probably (still have my doubts about Gaaei tbh), but I genuinely think, that with a decent head coach/manager, this squad is easily good enough for second or third.
Ramaj hasn't played because Steijn was angry at not getting Olij.
That's what people say about Steijn, but I think he genuinely saw that his team lacked cohesension and communication and tried to help create that by fielding a Dutch goaly that has been at the club for a while.
Ramaj never played for a club like Ajax, nor under this amount of pressure, and doesn't speak the language. That is fine for 1 player, but Ajax already had to field to many new players that were still settling in and had no clue about what it means to play for Ajax.
Also, Steijn was quickly getting a lot of criticism for subsituting to much and not giving his players confidence, had he also changed his keeper those voices would have been even stronger. Gorter played in the pre-season and did alright, naturally he didnt want to swap another player.
Steijn would have played Rulli or Pasveer if they werent injured and we would never be talking about who is second or third in line in the goal. Mislintat should have never spend 10M EUR on a secondary keeper nobody knew to begin with, and it would have been super easy for Mislintat to give Steijn a sense his opinion mattered by giving him what he wanted for an unimportant role as backup keeper.
The whole keper debate is one of the many examples of that Steijn was dealt a really bad hand.
Also try to manage 2 new expensive strikers that dont fit a 4-3-3 while already having an expensive striker in the squad. Also no RW or Cam was attracted. Mislintat bought several interesting players, but it seems like he didnt put much thought on squad building
I agree it’s a legitimate excuse. It did sound like Steijn actually had a much better idea what the squad needed than that surf fraud.
At the same time you can’t go and throw all those signings under the bus literally the first game things go wrong. How are you supposed to build a cohesive squad that way?
He also chose to play those guys out of position immediately when he easily could have waited to integrate them if they weren’t ready. He definitely started making excuses for his dismissal from the start.
Not sure what Steijn thinks Maduro was leaking to ESPN, they haven't had any scoops at all since Maduro has been at Ajax
he would've got more time if he didn't look completely out of his depth and had shown any sign of even the slightest improvement. honestly it looked like the more time goes by the more helpless he is. it was way past time to go.
His best match was his first against Shakhtar Donetsk. We did have Kudus in that match though.
No its your 18% win rate more than anything.
Between this, not playing players Mislintat got out of spite and the absolute shite display on the pitch Steijn is really making an effort to look awful.
Is he not playing them out of spite? Or is it because they have looked absolutely dreadful every time they played?
Like, can you tell me with a straight face that players like Akpom, Gaeei, Mikautadze and Ávila have looked like good players on the field for even 10 minutes? Which one of those isn't playing out of spite? That Medic guy scored an absolute worldie, but looks beyond dreadful for the rest of open play. The Mannsverk guy played one match and it was one of the worst individual performances I've ever seen from an Ajax-player.
How long are we still going to be able to enjoy this shitshow?
~~Schreuder moet blijven~~
~~Heitinga moet blijven~~
~~Steijn moet blijven~~
Maduro moet blijven
I thought Verweij’s sources inside Ajax were gone, or am I mistaken? If not, then this might just be shit stirring.
They were gone, until Steijn started giving him info to survive, like a rat.
Mislintat didnt share info with him, Verweij and the Telegraaf did absolutely not like that, but since he is gone they have information again...crazy....
It’s Steijn. Mislintat stopped the sharing. The moment he was gone they suddenly started printing inside stories again that very clearly blamed him and served Steijn. Now they’re again feeding a story that benefits Steijn and kicks down everyone else at ajax. Steijn should shut the fuck up just for that, and there are plenty of other reasons why
So instead of Steijn they now have a backstabbing head coach. Should work just fine…
Just be happy we don’t still have Promes or it coulda been a stab to the knee