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Fuck all this "let's not celebrate the gruesome murder of a political opponent" bullshit, the man was a stochastic terrorist. Let's dunk on the douchebag and piss on his grave together. I hope more fascists like him get it through the neck

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Trump... just gave a speech, an address, whatever, from the Oval Office.

Partial (?) Transcription:

For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazi's and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals.

This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now.

My administration will find will each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after judges, law enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our country.

From the attack on my life in Butler Pennsylvania last year, which killed a husband and father, to the attacks on ICE agents, to the vicious murder of a health care executive in the streets of New York, to the shooting of House Majority leader Steve Scalise (sp?) and three others: Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives.

Tonight I ask all Americans to commit themselves to the American values for which Charlie Kirk lived and died.

The values of free speech, citizenship, the rule of law, and the patriotic devotion and love of God.

Charlie was the best of America, and the monster who attacked him was attacking our whole country.

An assassin tried to silence him with a bullet, but he failed, because together, we will ensure that his voice, his message and his legacy will live on for countless generations to come.

Today, because of this heinous act, Charlie's voice has become bigger and grander than ever before, and it's not even close.

May God bless his memory, may God watch over his family, and may God bless the United States of America.

Thank you.

Uh... yep, yep, this our Reichstag Fire.

This is an open ended and limitless declaration of total intolerance for any political dissidence, a call to action and unity of national purpose/faith in the pursuit or specifically Charlie Kirk's conception of America, a pledge to avenge his memory going forward for 'countless generations'.

... See?

It can always get worse.

EDIT:

As this is still getting updoots, people are still reading this, so, more context.

Evidently, as best I can tell, this is from an AI generated speech/video.

However, this AI generated video was also directly posted by Trump's real account.

So... what this means is that we are in an ... Equilibrium situation.

What I mean by that is that the regime is literally using a convincing digital likeness of the prime figurehead of the regime, produced and published, intentionally, by themselves... as opposed to actually filming the actual figurehead.

(If I rember right I think this also happens in V for Vendetta, the film version at least? I am not 100% sure.)

Probably less important but still concerning to at least myself is that I did not immediately clock this.

This is uh, doubleplusungood.

We are now in full, comprehensive, alternate reality mode.

... I think the 9/11 of 2001 had less wild speculation, bad information, total media and public confusion going on than... this current 9/11 of 2025.

Also, apparently a bomb threat has just been called in to the DNC HQ in DC.

Shit is getting wild, fucking fast.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah well if the democrats reaction to everything Trump has done has taught us anything, it’s that it’s going to have to get a lot worse before they’ll get off their asses to help.

This was always coming. Putting it off helped nobody but the fascists.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

... The Dems may be on the verge of getting purged ala the KPD.

Literally forced to flee, effectively abdicate their positions, due to a mass crackdown.

The Dems will largely only realize they actually are fucked when they literally are arrested and jailed.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

they’ll get off their asses to help.

Please. The liberals are already "reaching across the aisle" to shed tears for this dead fascist - the only "help" we can expect from liberals is bigger budgets for all the paramilitaries.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was always gonna get worse. Unless the big fascists died. Vance, miller, bannon, may e trump himself but without hsndlers he might've just flailed.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Don't forget their billionaire masters.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you really believe the fascists are coming for us then go out and buy a gun, put a nice rainbow flag or black lives matter sticker on it, and prepare for the resistance. Don't be afraid, be armed.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am currently crippled.

... I do not really have that option.

Hopefully I can at least provide useful info or reasonable opinions.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Respectfully, you would have to be quite severely crippled to be unable to shoot a fascist. Not saying you need to be on the front lines, but get a gun.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I can't walk.

Not more than a few minutes, gotta use braces and crutches or a cane to bump that up to maybe 45 minutes, before the pain is unbearable.

I only have one good hand.

And it is not my dominant hand.

Not trying to generally disagree with your advice, trying to say that I am indeed pretty fucking crippled at the moment.

Good news is prognosis of significant recovery is possible, but its gonna be a while longer of PT.

Whole lot of highly overstressed muscles and tendons, some seriously torn, good bit a nerve damage, at least all the fractures have healed by now.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well if your recovery is not as good as you like, assistance devices are getting better and cheaper

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-95599-2

We'll have you doing wetwork one way or the other

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Hah, I mean, unironically, something like that would help me greatly, but uh you know, healthcare's just great in the US and all, superduper affordable and all that.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If that's the route you want to go you're going to need a lot more than just range toys.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

On the ground organization and actual OPSEC are arguably more important, but I agree with the sentiment.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People always say this but whoever got Charlie didn't need more than that so I disagree. You're not facing down the Air Force directly, you're taking out leadership as you get the opportunity.

Besides, the implication of your argument is that we shouldn't try because it will be hard and I think that's some bullshit. Of course it will be hard but resistance is also necessary in the case where our very lives are being threatened. If you have to resist it's better to do so with even a poor tool than it is to be empty handed.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

but whoever got Charlie didn’t need more than that so I disagree.

If assassinations could win wars we'd already be living in an anarchist utopia - that's what anarchists used to be famous for, remember?

the implication of your argument is that we shouldn’t try

Not at all... but it's going to require a lot of "back-to-the-drawing-board" thinking.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is guerilla war if not a series of well-planned assassinations by a much worse armed force. The USA showed the whole world how effective that tactic is at winning wars, by losing to it again and again.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

What is guerilla war if not a series of well-planned assassinations by a much worse armed force.

That is absolutely not what insurgencies are. Assassination is a tactic - not a strategy - and it is most definitely not some "lens" through which to flatten and simplify what insurgency actually is. It's that very kind of superficial thinking that is the whole reason the US military establishment cannot fathom why they can't seem to win at this kind of warfare.

Just remember this... even dodgy tankie outfits like the Weather Underground and the RAF understood that assassination could only get them so far before it began backfiring on them in a big way - and, with hindsight, it's easy to see that they were still being way too optimistic about it.

Sure you want to hold onto this idea?

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is warfare if not assassinations on a large scale?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is warfare if not ~~assassinations~~ slaughter on a large scale?

FTFY.

That is certainly how colonisers view warfare - they do have the propaganda machines to explain it all away, after all.

Are you sure YOU do?

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Assassination and slaughter are both describing the same thing. The only real difference is scale. Either way you've got one group of people deciding to achieve their goals via targeted violence against their enemies.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

Assassination and slaughter are both describing the same thing. The only real difference is scale

No, and no - the difference is vast.

I have to admit - I'm quite disturbed that people who are discussing the use of force against one of the most violent empires in human history doesn't seem to understand the concept of force all that well.

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't forget that the whole thing was AI-generated too... https://files.catbox.moe/lix5jz.mp4

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing. something weird with his fingers? it looks like some upscaling glitch.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

According to this the weird glitching is a result of digitally stitching clips together, which is pretty feasible. It's unlikely Trump can speak for that long without needing some editing. Still shady to digitally manipulate an official video from the White House.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ok, plausible, but:

... Why does the lighting/shadowing of the tree, in the window behind him... also morph, at the same time as the nonsense hand motion... and then never changes again?

Look, you can see that morph, right above his head, at the exact same time.

Why does he suddenly have a more old school stereotypical NE accent on 'horror' (harrah) right before the hand nonsense happens?

Am I wrong here or... does he normally not pronounce 'horror' like that?

... Did...

... did he fucking stroke out, mid-take, and... you can maybe tell the passage of time via calculating the lighting angle change in the background, the time between takes that got morph-spliced together?

He's looking pretty uh, like had a stroke, today, at the 9/11 memorial service.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Why does the lighting/shadowing of the tree, in the window behind him... also morph

Because trees rustle and the silence removal tool seems like a speed-up.

See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ8orIurGxw.

Though I don't know about the hand thing. Compression blurring things maybe?