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[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Are you conflating Osama Bin Laden with Saddam Hussein, for whom as summarized by wikipedia:

In 2003, a US-led coalition invaded Iraq, falsely accusing him of developing weapons of mass destruction and of having ties with al-Qaeda.

Unless you have that evidence the world was looking for I don't want to spread old, debunked propaganda.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh please, Obama wasn't even on the scene when I got the info on Osama, I definitely know the difference.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can you cite where Saddam is involved in 9/11? Again, it's generally accepted history that the Bush Administration claimed he supported the attacks, never presented evidence he was involved, then later admitted he was not involved.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/sep/12/september11.usa2

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, that document was first archived in August 2013, not 2006, not 2001

https://web.archive.org/web/20130830185412/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/sep/12/september11.usa2

So please don't try to refer me to ancient shit that could have been altered over many years...

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'll stop referring to sources that could have been altered, when you start providing specifics about who you think deleted what and why?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Did you miss the mass erase of online data?

My data is before the mass erase.

I don't even trust modern links, they've all been tampered with.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're in your walls they're gonna come for you

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Har har, you're phunny.

Some say perfect paranoia is perfect awareness.

No, I don't believe there are microphones or cameras hidden in the walls. You think I'm stupid? The microphones and cameras are right here in the tablet I'm holding right now..

Nothing hidden anymore, it's right in front of you...

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Trust me bro." I too, would love to see this evidence as someone personally touched on multiple fronts by this event.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

GAO-04-1033T

Legit info, and I'm sure that's not all..

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

LOL The 9/11 Commission Report? Really?

The July 2004 9/11 Commission Report addressed a possible conspiracy between the government of Iraq and al-Qaeda in the September 11 attacks. The report addressed allegations of contacts between al-Qaeda and members of Saddam Hussein's government and concluded that there was no evidence that such contacts developed into a collaborative relationship, and they did not cooperate to commit terrorist attacks against the United States.[18][97]

Maybe check out all the reports on this list, my friend: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda_link_allegations

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don't trust any information about this subject, even my own info. It's all very prone to misinformation, propaganda, and general manipulation.

But of all sources you'd suggest, Wikipedia?

You gotta be shitting me. My sources are between the GAO (Government Accountability Office) and a hefty data dump of early years of Wikileaks.

Anyways, yeah I have plenty enough reason to not trust currently available information, it's all probably been cherry picked and edited to hell and back for the modern narrative.

I have much more original information.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not trusting any external source here. I grew up under the Bush presidency and simply remember the whole fiasco.

Bush and friends invented the link to justify their prior war plans, when pushed to prove there was a connection, Bush failed to produce evidence.

You're implying Bush (or … someone?) had the evidence that would have vindicated him, but rather than share it, deliberately buried it and successfully hid it from the whole world?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I just got done saying that I don't trust any info on this subject, even the huge archive I inherited from my late father.

But I'm more inclined to trust the data from my late father, before many documents conveniently got edited, blacked out or just became missing.

Anyways, I don't care what anyone thinks or can or cannot prove about Hussein, it's perfectly normal to hide in a hole in the ground if you've done nothing wrong...

Oh wait..

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You do realize that reads like you're off your meds.

I work in IT. There have definitely been several attacks on the quality of information available to the general public in the last few decades, but none that I would qualify as a singular "the"

Could you be more specific on which attack (or by whom) you're referring to?

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think they're just doing a bit. Nobody is actually that dumb.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I think they're a person who's honestly in a dark place.

I think they're objectively wrong about the 'Saddam being linked to 9/11' thing, and I worry that they've been a bit lost in their own head a bit.

The idea that data was deleted isn't meritless in the sense that between enshittification and Musk's tech bros there's good reason to believe censorship and destruction have occurred recently (and they're only the latest in a long line of maliciously maligned actors).

But I agree that their posts are so ridiculously textbook schizophrenic, that I do wonder if it's an act. Yet, nonetheless it costs me little to be kind. 😅

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Also, Bin Laden was a puppet of Hussein