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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Anyone that's read about the lead-up to WW2 or, well, any historical instance of fascism gaining political control over a country knows that they're going to keep pushing. They're going to keep targeting the left. They're going to ram through executive orders to oppress the left. They're going to get the SC to make decisions against the left. They're going to label nebulous entities like ANTIFA (when's the last time you saw an ANTIFA gathering) as terrorist organizations. They're going to end up openly calling for genocide. It's going to happen.

So I implore everyone to arm themselves and form networks with likeminded people. You do not want to start doing this after it's too late. If you need motivation, start reading up on 1930s Germany (the similarities are undeniable) and follow up with a list of WW2 atrocities. There's definitely a WIKI page for it.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The number of similarities between modern America and 1930s Germany is shocking.

I believe the assassination of Kirk is highly analogous to the killing of Horst Wessel. Both Wessel and Kirk were far right nationalists who were killed and subsequently hailed as martyrs by their fascist movements.

Hitler brought up Wessel in all of his early speeches. The Nazis wrote songs and bullt statues of Wessel. And today we can already hear the songs about Kirk. Congressmen are passing around a bill to erect a statue of Kirk in the Capitol.

If we continue to follow this timeline closely, we are about 2 years away from our own Reichstag fire moment.

[–] Awkwardparticle@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So this time around, is that 2 weeks?

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's an interesting subject, I sometimes wonder "is our fascism progressing faster than the Nazis?", but I haven't really come up with a good answer.

I'll stick with my "2 years" prediction though. I think a Reichstag fire moment is most likely when political tension is high, and political tension naturally peaks in the lead up to a presidential election.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Think that's a fair assessment. On the one hand we are more connected than ever and sentiment travels fast and echo chambers let dangerous extremist thought fester. On the other hand, Germans were experiencing just a much worse actual living situation.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 week ago

This is the most fucking American liberal comment thread. Just casually wondering if it will be years or months until the fascists consolidate power and start exterminating people. Gee, how awful that will be. Sure is a shame nobody can do anything about it.

[–] TwoDogsFighting@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

To be fair, 1930s got most of their ideas from the US. The country has always been sick in the bones.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Antifa is such a strange concept to me because doesn't it stand for Anti-fascist? So making Antifa your enemy means you are fascist

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imperial Japan is the only country in modern history to become a Fascist Theocracy. Under Project 2025, the USA is following a similar path. I always pointed to Germany, Italy and Spain, but they did not beat the Japanese in the fucked up realm of fascism.

[–] Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Arte, French media, produced a documentary about the Japanese invasion and occupation of Manchuria. Basically WW II started in 1931 led by a rather unknown Imperial Army officer named Kanji Ishiwara. The Tokyo Trials failed to send the asswipe to a prison or hang him and he croaked peacefully in 1949.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they love antifa because they can point at anything they don't like and scream antifa, and now law enforcement will fall on it.

fucking fascists.

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The left loves Antifa because they can use it as cover for illegal behavior. It's convenient that you continue to claim Antifa doesn't exist, yet you all coordinate with each other in breaking the law. Hard to coordinate with something that doesn't exist.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

do you have a single shred of evidence?

where do they go to sign up, antifa.org?

Hard to coordinate with something that doesn’t exist.

indeed; but you've figured it all out apparently, so drop the wisdom. how is 'the left' coordinating via 'antifa' to break the law?

also, what's wrong with anti fascism? everyone should be anti fascism, unless you're a goose stepping fascist cocksucker.

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Antifa is a loosely organized group of like minded individuals. There is no official membership, it's an ideology welcome to any who share this world view. They develop tactics to intimidate and silence their opponents and help each other cover illegal and immoral behavior. This can be hitting people in the head with bike locks, throwing cups full of cement, lighting buildings on fire, and other destructive behavior. They wear black bloc and cover their faces so as not to be easily identifiable. They claim to be the good guys "fighting Nazis", but really they're a bunch of thuggish larpers with social behavior conditions and a lack of morals. I have hours and hours of video footage of Antifa individuals perpetrating violent and destructive acts against those they disagree with. They lean heavily into the untrue sentiment that they aren't an organization as it allows them to side step any kind of legal accountability. In reality they operate sort of like sleeper cells in different regions protesting, rioting, stoking the flames to silence their political opponents. They're scum.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Proud boys, 3%s and Groypers more your speed?

when I think about thuggish larpers, that's who comes to mind. violent and destructive acts - like j6?

if there's an organization, please, out it, be my guest. do you think you're the first sharp mind that's tried to crack this nut?

that maybe, it's not a giant machination, that simply there are many, many people violently upset with everything from BLM to outright fascism in the streets with ICE?

hrmm....

no, scum paraded through the streets screaming jews will not replace us.

that's scum. fascist scum.

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's the difference, I can unequivocally state that I don't in any way condone nor support violence from any individual on the right. I'm curious if you can do the same on the left. I routinely see it excused and justified.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I can unequivocally state that I don’t in any way condone nor support violence from any individual on the right.

you must be a rare bear then, sparky, because that entire side froths at the mouth for violence at damn near every turn they get. the overwhelming majority of violence comes from people on the right.

https://time.com/7317383/political-violence-america-trump-crackdown-right/

I don't see people on the left condoning violence against anyone except ICE, and that's because of the fascist actions ICE is taking in cities across the country.