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What's the lowest amp wattage that could drive realistically ANY production headphone? (alien.top)
submitted 1 year ago by extremity4@alien.top to c/headphones@hi-fi.community
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I see a lot of variance on people's amp recommendations for products. It seems to me like a clean 1W into 32Ω is enough to drive the majority of headphones to 120db, which is extraordinarily loud to the point of being unlistenable. Tons of middle-tier desktop amps can handle going over 5W per channel at the same impedance and some even go over 10W. Are these wattages actually useful for anything? What wattage would set you up for any headphone, regardless of budget?

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[–] Pity_Pooty@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

4 volts RMS would be enough for 99% of headphone market, and this voltage is industry standard. If output impedance is low, it will be able to drive low impedance headphones.

For stuff people mention,like HE-6 might need more, I don't have much experience. You can calculate loudness of headphone based on dB/V spec. Every doubling of voltage increases loudness by 3 dB

[–] blorg@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doubling voltage increases loudness by 6dB. Doubling of power (watts) increases it by 3dB, but 2x voltage = 4x power.

HE6 is 89.7 dB/V SPL so 4V would be 101.7dB.

It's not just about voltage, though, it's also about current/power. Voltage is only really relevant for high impedance headphones. Low impedance, most amps will run out of power before they run out of voltage.

4V @16Ω is 1W. I have several little dongles here that have no problem doing 4V @300Ω into a HD600 or HD800S (53mW) but they can't do 1W.

Most headphones, you don't need 1W though. HE6 is a bit of an exception.

[–] Pity_Pooty@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

My bad for 3dB thing. I think current is consequence of voltage and if output impedance of amplifier is low, current is unaffected. If output impedance is comparable with load impedance, voltage and current arrived at load is reduced.

Thank you for spec for HE6. On paper it should be plenty loud at 4 V