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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, don't get it twisted: I have my issues with the Democratic Party. Many things drive me crazy about the party. The "moderates" within the party like Manchin. Or the turncoat Fetterman. And just where the fuck have most of them been under this regime? Schumer is supposed to be our firebrand?

And we have a whole lot of supposed activists that seem mostly fired up about identity politics instead of old-school labor activism. Preoccupied with being liberal scolds and trying to shame and ostracize people who might not use the most updated terms for all things, or not be 100% on board for all things left, but might be 80% there. Further polarizing and pushing away people who should be our allies, even if they are merely "pale males". We had better get as many votes from everyone as possible. If we are only seeking votes from the winners of the Oppression Olympics, we are well and truly fucked.

But as far as actionable things...how do you propose to make anyone you've deemed as "establishment" resign? Did you campaign for a challenger? Do we have a stable of challengers somewhere that are viable? All this shit takes money, too - what billionaires are helping to fund any of this?

[–] Hector@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

We need to take the d party from state and county level, and national, and when that fails, as I expect it will for the DCCC, they should be frozen out, mocked, ridiculed, and an alternative organization built out.

Az did as much years back, but they did not have the support of any big picture National Organization to be able to build out an alternate organization as the moderates hid their lists and valuable information and give it to their own alternative organization.

We will never be able to get a stable of Challengers with the party actively suppressing them as we speak. The first step is organizing and getting rid of these hacks that failed us three elections in a row and continue to not realize their mistake.

Finding good candidates needs to be on some forum, perhaps in numerable groups Federated on a national, or International forum where people could cooperate on what they agree on both publicly and privately, where we could find and groom political candidates. But also too work on Collective actions, like if you do not support this thing this many of us will not vote for you type stuff. It would have to be Federated because if not they would find some illegality and illegalize the entire thing. They might do so anyway.