!politics@piefed.social
It's another politics community! As part of the continuing fallout of pretty much everyone bashing !politics@lemmy.world for being objectively horrible, I decided to make one. Let's see how it goes.
General guidelines are, more or less: You can be a dick, but don't argue in bad faith. Less strictness in terms of "only post what I want you to post" than some of the existing options. You can take any viewpoint you want to take, but you may have to defend it. No drive-by shouted opinions, no abusiveness, no obvious propaganda or trash sources.
Detailed rules follow. Let me know if you want to help moderate. I expect that traffic will be a little slow for the beginning but as work ramps up it would presumably be good to have others involved.
Any politics anywhere in the world. Inevitably it'll be 99% US stuff, but that's not a rule.
This community works differently to how most politics communities work. It has strict rules designed to facilitate productive discussion. You can be rude, to a point, but you can't participate in bad faith:
- If you claim someone said something they didn't say, that's a temp ban.
- If you make a factual claim but then aren't interested in backing it up, that's a temp ban.
- If you're asked one or two reasonable questions about what you said, and you're still talking but you're pretending the questions didn't happen or rejecting the premise of answering them, that's a temp ban.
The idea is to make the discussion productive. Let's see how it works. Maybe this is a fool's errand but IDK how any set of moderation could be worse than lemmy.world.
Other misc rules:
- Reliable sources only.
- Keep it productive please.
- Self posts for discussion are fine. This includes videos or photos. No meme posts or screenshots please.
- No personal insults.
- No racism / transphobia / related bigotry.
Why do you want to refer to Rimu about the name, while you didn't consult him in the first place to create this community?
If you are looking for precedent on other instances, there is !AskUSA@discuss.online and !casualeurope@piefed.social who clearly scope their demographics.
Beehaw has !usnews@beehaw.org
I just feel like if want it to be worldwide, you will see people post politics from any country in the world, then people not interested in those politics won't see how it's relevant to them, thus hindering the success of the community. Also, it wouldn't be a similarly-scope community compared to !politics@lemmy.world, so people will probably stay on it (and non-Americans will also prefer it, as it allows them to block US politics in one community without blocking themselves from the rest of the world)
Beehaw also has a much smaller audience, if your community ever get popular, you will see a lot of content if it's worldwide.
Because I wasn't intending for it to "go live" yet, I just didn't fully grasp what it would mean to leave the box checked to publish to other instances. I mean it's fine, I don't see a reason to delay now that it's published, but I had intended for more discussion and populating it with content before making it fully live.
It didn't even occur to me that the name would be an issue. I'm open to the idea. Like I say I think it should be instance owner's call at the end of the day, since "politics" is kind of a naturally heavily iconic community. I was actually a little bit surprised that there wasn't one here already. I'm fine changing it if the judgement is that it should have a different name.
As someone who's not American, and is tired of seeing every online space being made into "this topic, for the USA", please consider changing to !uspolitics
This is a feeling you can see quite a lot on Lemmy, this isn't an online platform owned by a US company, still the neutral communities tend to become US-centric, probably as people were replicating Reddit when we first arrived here.
On another note, to add to what @Skavau@piefed.social was saying, here is what !news@piefed.world looks like , using tags for both location (US, world) and type of content (politics) https://piefed.world/c/news
Yeah, I get that. But also, 2 of the 5 stories I posted were not US politics stories. I would like to be able to post stuff about what's going on in the world without needing to sideline it if it isn't US stuff.
I do get what you're saying. Like I say, I'm just going to defer to letting the person who's organizing the top-level communities on piefed.social have the final say. I did add a "US Politics" flair, to make it a little easier to block US Politics stories if that's what people want to do, but I feel like more likely the people who don't want US politics in their feed are just going to block the whole community regardless which is completely fine (and I categorized it topic-wise accordingly).
Like I say, I do get it, I'm just deferring the decision to someone else instead of you and me arguing back and forth about it.
Isn't that what !world@quokk.au is for? You'll see it referenced in my other comment as well.