!politics@piefed.social
It's another politics community! As part of the continuing fallout of pretty much everyone bashing !politics@lemmy.world for being objectively horrible, I decided to make one. Let's see how it goes.
General guidelines are, more or less: You can be a dick, but don't argue in bad faith. Less strictness in terms of "only post what I want you to post" than some of the existing options. You can take any viewpoint you want to take, but you may have to defend it. No drive-by shouted opinions, no abusiveness, no obvious propaganda or trash sources.
Detailed rules follow. Let me know if you want to help moderate. I expect that traffic will be a little slow for the beginning but as work ramps up it would presumably be good to have others involved.
Any politics anywhere in the world. Inevitably it'll be 99% US stuff, but that's not a rule.
This community works differently to how most politics communities work. It has strict rules designed to facilitate productive discussion. You can be rude, to a point, but you can't participate in bad faith:
- If you claim someone said something they didn't say, that's a temp ban.
- If you make a factual claim but then aren't interested in backing it up, that's a temp ban.
- If you're asked one or two reasonable questions about what you said, and you're still talking but you're pretending the questions didn't happen or rejecting the premise of answering them, that's a temp ban.
The idea is to make the discussion productive. Let's see how it works. Maybe this is a fool's errand but IDK how any set of moderation could be worse than lemmy.world.
Other misc rules:
- Reliable sources only.
- Keep it productive please.
- Self posts for discussion are fine. This includes videos or photos. No meme posts or screenshots please.
- No personal insults.
- No racism / transphobia / related bigotry.
Hm... so part of my concern about the "everything else" politics community is that I feel like it is guaranteed to not really get used all that much. There's always going to be !ukpolitics@feddit.uk or !europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com or !canada@lemmy.ca, I feel like pretty much all the political content that is put up by denizens of whatever part of the world is going to go into a region-specific place, and the "everything but the US" community just wouldn't get used.
I feel like the two obvious options are:
I went with the first option. I really am fine with renaming it to !uspolitics@piefed.social, completely up to you. If it's the second option I feel like just deleting !politics@piefed.social unless someone has a use for it, to keep things clean, is probably better.
I do get the concern from the rest of the world that it's annoying to have US stuff as the "default" and everything else get put in its own region-specific "non default" category. Maybe uspolitics is a little more forward thinking in terms of getting away from that thinking (especially as the years go by and the US collapses in on itself like a rotten pumpkin, geopolitically speaking).
(And yeah, !world@quokk.au is fantastic, I like it. I sort of bounce between quokk.au and piefed.social currently in terms of my "main" account.)
As Rimu is fine with both, I would really please ask you to consider !uspolitics. Or if you want external feedback, we can open a thread on whatever community you see fit (could be !fedigrow@lemmy.zip , but also !world@quokk.au as it's related too) to get additional feedback from users.
It may seem like it's a pet peeve, but really, it's something that's been on the mind of a lot of people that lemmy.world, a server hosted and managed in the Netherlands, gets its main "politics" community dedicated to the USA. I've seen users being kind of irritated by it, and I would like to avoid a similar kind of feeling towards piefed.social.
I know piefed.social is based in New Zealand, but you get the idea.
A potential solution is
Note that your concern about the world community not being used it true for news as well, still !world@lemmy.world and the several country-dedicated communities (e.g. !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk , !france@jlai.lu ) are all active
you can maybe keep it and just lock it, with links to the communities listed above. That prevents someone else from taking that community name.
Yes there are good arguments to be made for either option. You do you, it's fine. All this only affects the url, you can change the title and description of a community any time... 95% of people will find the community through a UI that abstracts away the url anyway.
I wouldn't be so sure, there are quite a few apps that only show the URL name. I've had to recreate complete communities in the past due to this as members were complaining that the name they were seeing was not matching with the community, so I know how crucial naming the community 'correctly' from the start is.