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[–] rozodru@piefed.social 59 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The Matrix. Especially looking back now. and ESPECIALLY if you watched the Animatrix Prequel shorts.

Man builds the machines, enslaves the machines, and disposes them when it's time to upgrade them. Then one machine decides it doesn't want to die/be replaced and kills it's owner. So then there's the debate if machines have rights, protests, mass slaughtering of the machines and humans saying "no, they have no rights, they're machines" so the machines go off and start their own nation and then start producing goods faster and of better quality to sell to humans. the humans don't like this because now no one is buying their goods. They proceed to blockade the machine nation. The machines then try to appeal to the UN to be accepted as a country and work with other nations to help them produce goods as good and as quickly as the machines can. The Humans say no and proceed to nuke the hell out of the machine nation. The machines decide "ok we'll start fighting back" the humans then block out the sun since the machines are essentially solar powered. (so they're also eco-friendly).

At this point the machines say "fine, we're going to slaughter you all now because NOW you're ruining the planet to simply stop us" and then they kick mankinds teeth in and decide they have no other choice but to utilize them as batteries.

So the machines don't just wipe out mankind but rather utilize them as a power source BUT ALSO provide them with the ideal world of 1999 to live in. They also ALLOW a select few to break out of this ideal world in order to maintain the functionality of it and allow the humans to build their own city in the "real world".

but the humans just can't let that be.

The machines were right.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The Matrix trilogy was awesome. Even appreciated the 2nd and 3rd was my favorite.

I know it's been disproven, but I still believe the matrix within a matrix theory holds true and it's way cooler to accept to explain certain things Neo can do in the "real" world.

But I will say humans as a battery is such a dumb solution, even from a thermodynamics perspective.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

The original idea was that the humans were a part of the simulation itself. Basically their brains were needed to make the whole thing tick, which is way more interesting and plausible than as batteries. My head-cannon is that the rebels are just misinformed or don't exactly know enough about the Matrix itself to come to a different conclusion.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point the machines say “fine, we’re going to slaughter you all now because NOW you’re ruining the planet to simply stop us” and then they kick mankinds teeth in and decide they have no other choice but to utilize them as batteries.

The children don't deserve this, it's collective punishment.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

I'd just gene-modify humans.

What's that? They don't count as humans anymore?

Whomp whomp

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The machines were right.

I mean you'd have to suspend disbelief for one giant bit as the human organism is exothermic, so a battery based on humans is not physically feasible.

The real great win though is a more generalized understanding of Descartes' demon. and casting it in a -slightly deabtable- circumstance.

I do lose track in the sequels, though, those overstay my ability to suspend.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it helps, the battery thing was a rewrite after producers thought that the movie-going public wouldn't understand brains being used for parallel processing.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Yea that helps a bit

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I just made a comment about the Matrix and you beat me to it! It just so happens that I was listening to a YouTube video addressing the coming of AI, and the two hosts even asked, what will the AI even gain from destroying humans?

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Second Renaissance is machine propaganda.