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    Before installing Linux, I had originally planned to dual-boot on my main PC, but somehow a gaming rig from 5 years ago isn't good enough to run windows 11, which is ridiculous.

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    [–] olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The TPM requirement is artificial and can be bypassed in the installer.

    [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    But I don't want to install windows

    [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    Then why are you using a Windows installer? I’m so confused.

    [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

    I don’t understand.

    [–] oplkill@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    Microsoft are not asking you, they will install it anyway

    [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Tell me more, I thought TPM was hardware checked?

    [–] Robin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    No critical part of Windows actually requires the TPM. The limitation is 99% artificial. Which is why people keep finding workarounds.

    [–] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

    Windows security is built upon the a chain of trust from boot. If you do not have a chip then that is not there which I'd say is a critical part of Windows missing. You can argue its not required but its part of what windows wants to ship so id say it is.

    [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 8 hours ago

    The TPM is mostly used to store bitlocker keys and Microsoft account tokens. If you're not using bitlocker nor a Microsoft account, the TPM is basically just sitting there doing nothing. The security afforded by the TPM is not needed by most users. The only users whose threat model would be improved by a TPM are users who are at risk of their locked PC being acquired by an advanced threat actor desperate enough for the information stored on it to attempt a cold boot or similar attack. Basically only executives and government officials who travel with their work laptops need TPM and the full secure boot chain. For 99.99% of Windows users it's just additional hassle and expense for no added benefit

    [–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    Even if it were true. Windows security is probably the worst part about windows, and that's saying alot. If you can manage to somehow disable it you will probably improve your frame rates 15%, your battery life by 30%, double your hard drives life, and increase the actual security of your system significantly, since most of the malware will just crash as it doesn't know how to deal with not having Windows security installed, breaking it's install process. You will also greatly increase your privacy, and extend the life of good software, because without the spyware, Microsoft has a harder time figuring out which software people install that they want to break in a future update to benefit their corporate partners in crime. You will also greatly improve the responsiveness of the system anytime there is disk IO. There is literally not a single reason to use windows security. The only time it will benefit you is if your cat is walking on your keyboard at night and installing random software or something because you don't have a lock screen. You will also somehow get laid more because you don't look like a boomer.

    [–] Robin@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    If it were that important to Microsoft then they should just refuse to boot without the chain of trust. I'm guessing they can't because of backwards compatibility reasons. Maybe they will with Windows 12.

    [–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

    I think Microsoft puts the minimum possible effort into windows. It's a very small piece of their cloud, investing, data selling, propaganda, and AI company. They just make so much money off of speculation nowadays. Inflation is really high so the stock market grows really fast even if the economy is shrinking. A company like Microsoft is positioned to make so much money just in growth because they hold billions of dollars in the stock market.

    They absolutely will ruin windows in every possible way, until people jump ship and start using other operating systems, at which point they will just kill the brand or sell it, and focus on their other sectors that make profits. They like many people know this is the right option. Keeping an operating system going is extremely complex these days and even with all the money in the world, microsoft could never find enough talent to actually pull it off. When you get to that level, most programmers aren't motivated by money so much as working on projects they like. Most actually intelligent people also would refuse to work for a company that spies on its citizens and sells them out to the worst people on earth, which are politicians. At this point Microsoft probably makes way more money selling servers to the IDF to capture all phones calls from people in Gaza then they make off windows in 10 years.

    [–] Mcdolan@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    You realize the post you're replying in right? Lol

    [–] Auth@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

    No I genuinely dont understand why my comment would be considered out of place or strange?

    I saw someone complain about TPM requirements and someone else say to ignore them because they arent needed but I think if you want windows 11 they ARE needed.

    [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

    The amount of misinformation here made me think I'm on the Technology community.

    TPM 2.0 is only one of the MANY security features that are now hard-required. Among them is DCH driver support, MBEC support, or HVCI.