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XMPP servers / communities? (programming.dev)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Matty_r@programming.dev to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Hey all. I started writing an XMPP client just for learning purposes and I'm not sure on how widely used it actually is. Where is it actually used? Are there communities out there that actually use it?

Wasn't sure where to actually post this. Sorry if its a bit off topic

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[–] tal@olio.cafe 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

jabber.org is a major server.

https://jabberworld.info/servers/

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago

Please don't recommend jabber.org, it is super outdated and lacks almost all modern features.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Thanks, is there any indication on the number of daily users for some of those servers? Some of the IRC indexes would have usage graphs to get an idea of how popular it was.

[–] tal@olio.cafe 2 points 9 months ago

I haven't been using instant messaging programs much for some years, but checking https://old.reddit.com/r/xmpp/ I see:

https://www.glukhov.org/post/2025/09/xmpp-jabber-userbase-and-popularity/

This has an estimate of 13–20 million users globally for 2023, but warns that because many servers don't publish information about their userbase, there's necessarily uncertainty. According to it, Germany is the country with the largest userbase, followed by Russia, followed by the US.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

XMPP is truly decentralized with no single point that collects this kind of data. There have been some attempts over the years, but they always failed to capture more than a fraction of the network. A recent one is more artistic in nature, probably realizing the futility of it.

The popular Conversations app has sold 100k+ units on the PlayStore, but since you can also legally get it for free, that is probably only part of the actual users.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

Thats great, thanks. By the sounds of it I can probably continue with developed, I just need to find where people are going and what servers have the biggest population.

Thanks again!