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What you said about the nobility in medieval times interested me, so I looked into it:
In this paper they've looked at over 130,000 people in the European nobility between 800-1800 and found that there was an upwards trend in lifespan from around 50 to 60 years excluding violent deaths. So no, I don't believe many people got 80 years old back then even though they had the best care of that time.
And what you say about our modern world regarding cancer rates etc is simply not something we've conclusively solved yet.
don't confuse the lifespan of humans with the average life expsncy, it's not the same. Last depends of the amount of death of newborns and the general lifestyle, which lower the result. It has nothing to do with the age that homo sapiens can reach, which has always been the same. Naturally, the advance of medical treatments influences, but not so much as the lifestyle in general, as shown by people in villages close to 100 years old, who have never seen a doctor in their lives. Ramses II reign over 60 years, he died at an age of 90.
Yes, that's why I said lifespan. That's what the cited paper is about and it even goes to great lengths to exclude deaths by battles etc. But well, you seem to have made up your mind and not being open to expand your perspective. Annoying, but ultimately your problem. For me this discussion is over, bye.