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    [–] Verat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    Part of the problem with it is that it is very difficult not to use it, for instance if your code uses dbus, that makes systemd a dependency and almost all of the tools are like this. Want to use alternate software with systemd init? A-OK! want to use systemd tools without systemd init? Too bad! This inter-dependence is what I think makes it break the unix philosophy, its components dont like to be replaced or used outside of the "intended" environment of systemd init, keeping it from being replaced without breakage on lot of systems.

    On my install for instance, systemd is roped in by xdg-user-dirs (and hence steam), flatpak, fcitx5, and cups. And that is just a few. So the init system isnt a problem to me, the lack of drop-in replacements for its suite of tools is.

    [–] erev@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I think the biggest problem is that developing each other underlying subsystems without the rest is a hassle. As such no one has come up with a non-systemd dbus replacement. But there is a lot that can be replaced. There are some systemd services i just turn off immediately woth new installs and use something else because they're such dogshit (looking at you resolved).

    god i fucking hate systemd-resolved

    [–] lightsblinken@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    +1 on systemd-resolved. dumpster fire of horribleness. i dont mind 99% of systemd subsystems, but this one tips me over the edge, hard.

    [–] erev@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

    it pisses me off so much. what do you mean theres no way to set the priority of nameservers or to force them to be resolved in a specific order? no i don't want a public nameserver thats only there as backup to take precedence over my local nameserver thats necessary for kerberos to work!