Systemd has simplified my life on a few occasions, and it seems to be reliable from what I can tell. At the end of the day if I can get the OS to do what I want in a relatively simple matter, that's all I care about.
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I don't know what systemd is but this is pretty much how I picture all linux users.
Systemd is fine.
Journald is fine.
But someone pass me a mace I can beat systemd-resolved and systemd-logind to death with
EDIT: Oh come on 
You'll love resolved when you have to deal with split DNS ;)
Oh trust me I have. resolvconf and openresolve are awful too but for different reasons
Have one extra buzz from me as well. Screw RedHat and everything it does.
Well, now I do.
My biggest complaint with systemd....
Service xxx stop/start/restart is so much easier than
Systemctl stop/start/restart xxx
It fucking annoys me
I mean, you could write a shell function or script to just wrap it if it bothered you that much?
I'd rather complain
alias service="systemctl"
Or even
alias s="systemctl"
Note the order of the commands. I don't mind typing aystemctl
service() { systemctl $2 $1 }
I love you all solutioning for something I don't care enough about. I just find it annoying that systemctl reversed the order for some stupid reason.
Understandable, have a nice day
It seems like every Linux distro I've used both of those will work fine.
This must be why my post saying Linux made me gay got so many up votes.
I don't know if I like how you're characterizing furries. Not all of us do this, and I don't do it... often.
I dislike systemd less than I dislike sysvinit, so it has that going for it.
OwO
Used systemd for years; realistically my first init.
Switched to Gentoo.
Switched to OpenRC.
Lost logs at work on a server.
Some small inconveniences show up on systemd.
Yea, systemd is not that great.
There are people saying they don't want to care about an init system, but it's the same attitude as of those who don't care about what car they drive. Yes, it gets the job done, but that's not good enough for me.
I want the job done properly.
I don't get the systemd hate. The most common complaint I see is that it's too bloated, but Arch uses it, so what gives? Is it just that people dislike change? Like Wayland hate (not Wayland frustration)?
From what I heard, people hate systemd because Linus Torvald was approached by the NSA to create a backdoor on Linux, he said it wouldn't be possible to change the kernel because there were too many eyes on it, there was a mysterious hack of kernel.org introduced a mysterious code but it was spotted and removed... well, what was the only other thing common to all Linux? The sysv-init, but it was too small, too tight, too specific for them to create a backdoor there, they needed something big, bloated, doing way more than it should do, like it was just supposed to start the system but it can also do unrelated stuff like handling DNS, and an American company shows up bringing systemd, that solved all the problems the NSA had to create a backdoor on Linux, and all distros jumped into the honeypot :)
mind sharing some sources?
I read it once and couldn't find the post again, but I managed to find some stuff:
The kernel hack was in 2003:
https://lwn.net/Articles/57135/
There is no official communication between the NSA and Linus Torvalds. In 2013 when he was asked about a Linux backdoor for the NSA and said no while shaking his head yes, it's officially considered just a joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gRsgkdfYJ8
Later that year his father mentioned it again... is it an official hearing? It seems like they are also questioning people from Microsoft, but I didn't find info on that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRYyWn7BEo
In 2022 a lot of information about Bvp47 came to light, a Linux backdoor NSA was using for more than 10 years - I didn't find any info about this exploit being possibly because of systemd or not.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/nsa-linked-bvp47-linux-backdoor-widely-undetected-for-10-years/
Red Hat introduced systemd in 2010. My info about it being a subsidiary of a Big Tech was incorrect and I removed from my original message. It was only bought by IBM in 2018.
@grok, is this true?
and all distros jumped into the honeypot
As a filthy casual this is the most distressing part.
Iβve observed the situation shift in just a few years from
β~~Winter~~ Systemd is comingβ
To
β~~Winter~~ Systemd is here, itβs everywhere, and i hate itβ
Lol strangely believable in these times.
Nice conspiracy theory.
Damn, really make sense. Especially nowadays a lot of distros now defaults to systemd.
Generally I see a few:
- People wanting the highly deterministic, but slower behavior of the rc scripts.
- People liking the fact that the rc startup was generally almost entirely defined in plain script files
- Some folks criticizing certain opinionated things in systemd, as systemd delves deeper into things like capabilities and users.
- Systemd can sometimes be a bit weird about how it does/does not capture stdout/stderr as one might guess in some situations.
- Some folks not liking the journald angle of binary-only files
Mainly the last point is the only one I personally find potentially aggravating, but since I never really am in a broken system without journalctl I'm not too bothered by it. I have saved myself some effort thanks to systemd including stuff that the daemons used to provide for themselves.
People wanting the highly deterministic, but slower behavior of the rc scripts.
This is literally it for me. I got to work on an alpine system and it was like a breath of fresh air - I could edit the service script files directly. So easy, so little abstraction
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I still don't get what you guys have against Windows. Bill Gates has done so much good for the world.
(My body is ready.)
Bill Gates actually was pretty cool, it's windows after Bill Gates that's terrible. I can't say there was anything Bill Gates did that I didn't like, he was like the Gabe Newell of operating systems before steamdeck.
Put your phone on vibrate, etc...
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Good boy.
Listen, we've all done it.
We all have bash or fish or zsh aliases to do it in command.
We all love the feeling of a pulsing phone in our asses.
But we don't talk about it.
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