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President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.

The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it should definitely impact what he's willing to tolerate. Or do you think he should betray his own convictions, just to appease a political bully? So much for "elbows up", then? Now, it's just, "Whatever you say, Mr. Trump"?

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The trump answer is complex and will invariably end in bloodshed no matter the choices. Whether sooner or later is the question.

Appeasement is never the solution.

Delaying while preparing could be a strategy.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, I agree with you. If history is any indicator, this is not going to end well...for any of us. We need to prepare that inevitability.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I live near Niagara falls, I'm in the nuclear splash zone if it gets nuked, and if a war breaks out, the power plants will definitely become targets.

Good luck everyone. I probably won't be alive to see the outcomes if war breaks out.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

(Everythimg said is meant to be taken in a general.context and not specific to you - except the part about creeping your profile. I speak like that sometimes, and I don't mean to say anything about you specifically)

I may not agree with everything you say or think, (I don't know, I haven't creeped your profile), but the ability for us to disagree (as long as it doesn't harm anyone - except those who seek to destroy us) is the basis for civil society, and as of now, whatever differences you and I may or may not have regarding our current life choice or lifestyles is immaterial in the face of a literal apocalyptic threat coming from south of our border.

We all need to suck it up and put our truly petty differences aside in order to essentially save our nation, and our humanity, and humanity as a whole, for that matter.

I'm all about do whatever the fuck you want to do. As long as you don't hurt myself or others,cool. I don't give one fuck.

What I do care about is stopping a psychopath and his neonazi evangelizers destroy any hope for any future that isn't pure hell.

Can we do that?

Can we just relax our tribalism that people like trump has allowed the powers to foment this artificial hatred so many of us have let take hold of us?

Can we work as one for the common good?

I fucking hope so.

Or we all die in our smug righteousness.

[–] traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nazis' whole deal is crushing those who can't or won't crush back. Calls to not oppose them are fundamentally calls to enable their conquest and terror

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I have been calling for much more than merely opposing - for a very long time.

What I am asking for is for us to set aside our personal differences to do the crushing as one.

When that's done, we can debate our petty grievances and parliamentary theatrics once again.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Better sooner than later. Trump is a traitor to humanity. Hang him.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I think you'll be hard pressed to find disagreement on this around here....

Though, I have been wrong before.

[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you are the head of a state you don't get the luxury of personal convictions. You should always be acting in the interest of the state.

Realpolitik says the best interests of Canada are to try to get Trump to walk back steel and aluminium tariffs buying time while to diversify exports and institute "Buy Canadian"

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And, again...is it "in the interest of the state" to capitulate to economic extortion? We're just giving him what he wants, and getting nothing in return? And our leader is sitting there while he insults us all...including his own kid. What the actual fuck does that say about us? It says we're weak, and Trump can say and do whatever the hell he wants, without consequences.

And for the record, Trump is not going to "walk back" those tariffs. He's not only using them to fund his domestic agenda, but also to pursue his foreign policy agenda. They are his leverage over us.

Why would anyone assume he's going to just let that leverage go, especially when it's working? That's just ridiculous.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Or a nation could try not selling its soul for a buck.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

King Charles is the head of state.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On paper. We don't need his assent for anything. And if we did we have the Gov. Gen.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

We need his assent for any law to be adopted, federal or provincial.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And we have the Gov. Gen. for that.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes... who represents the Crown.