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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Unfortunately it’s usually not safe to walk in the road even sober. So while this is kinda victim blaming it’s also not wrong.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What surprisingly is even less safe: Using stairs.
Statistics show e.g. using stairs to be about 3 times more deadly than traffic participation as a pedestrian in my country.
So it would actually make much more sense to print "Don't drink and use stairs" on the bottle. :-)

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Is that 3 times more deadly per mile traveled, or for a given amount of time spent using stairs, or just total, for every one person killed by a car (as a pedestrian), 3 are slain by stairs?

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It's the total numbers compared.

So if you would get numbers per time or travelled distance, this would probably be even worse (>>3 times more deadly).

Especially since the statistics are from Germany. We are enthusiastic public walkers.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow interesting. Do you live in a relatively safe country for pedestrians? I do not so it may be different here.

Germany.

I guess our pedestrian infrastructure is probably better than in most other places.
But we also like to walk a lot, so this might shift statistics again...

These statistics are regularily presented at company safety courses to get us to actually use the provided handrails. :-)

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