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[–] Arondeus@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop. Any examples of this?

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 52 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

They shit on other projects all the time (frequently unprovoked, sometimes without the original conversation having anything to do about security). They also often reply with multiple posts with multiple paragraphs each when shitting on other projects. It shouldn't take very long to find an example if you trawl through their replies on Twitter, Bluesky, or Mastodon.

They have good points, but they're often either not relevant to the conversation or worded in such a way that it sounds like every project other than GrapheneOS is dogshit.

They also sometimes go on (IMO) paranoid rants about XYZ project systematically trying to destroy them or whatever.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I got the same vibes when they describe in detail how supposedly terrible Firefox on Android is for security. I actually didn't believe them just based on the tone.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, I think they're right that the security is worse. I'm pretty sure it's worse on desktop too, just not nearly as bad. Last I checked, Firefox on Android still doesn't do per-site process isolation by default, for example.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Yes that is what they said. But the way they said it made me doubt that it matters quite so much.

[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too

worse than what? What browser is better?

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blink-based ones (Chrome/Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.)

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Somehow I don't believe you when you say that those browsers are better for security.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna bother looking up references, but security and privacy are two different things (since I'm assuming that's what you're implying).

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, fair enough

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of our good friends on Lemmygrad.

[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago

it's called effortposting

[–] berber@feddit.org -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

wasn't that in the pqst? wasn't that just the guy who started it or sonethinf? isn't that person off the team now?

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you're talking about Daniel Micay, he's still heavily involved. I'm pretty sure he still maintains the accounts since they haven't really changed writing style or anything. IIUC though he's no longer the main dev.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago

That's what I've been thinking as well, remember having a conversation with him in a forum a few years ago and recently looked up something that had a comment from the official GrapheneOS account. The writing style was exactly the same. Kinda disappointing IMO, the dude is clearly a brilliant coder but he should be kept away from the official accounts as far as possible.

[–] berber@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yes i meant daniel micay. ah okay didn't know he was heavily involved. by "the accounts" i assume you are referring to social media accounts?

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, the social media accounts.

[–] sfjvvssss@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

If you want a direct example you can check their replies on Mastodon to about every topic.