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How come Star Wars gets a fuck ton of shitty sequels but the first TRON film in 15 years is a flop? I was waiting for this film since I was a child.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Or Tron itself. It's also named in every sentence of yours...

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The original Tron apparently actually made decent money (which is weird because everyone just assumed it bombed?)

Legacy made $410m on a $170m budget.

The problem is legitimately Disney and Leto...

And also Legacy was in 2010 so what exactly is happening here? You can't turn this into some kind of decades-long franchise with a doofus like Leto as the star, it's a "well the last one was kind of fun" movie you can't have a sex pest cultist as your face while trying to rake in casual nostalgia cash.

The original Tron was made on a $17 million budget and made $50 million at the box office in 1982. In 1980, Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back was made on a budget of $30 million and earned $550 million.

In 2010, Disney wanted their own Star Wars, so they tried making another Tron flick. Maybe they could make it stick. It made $410 million on a $170 million budget. Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith had a $113 million budget and made $903 million.

Disney has since bought and run Star Wars into the ground. Meanwhile Tron: Ares has been in production hell since 2017. And for the first time, a Tron movie is an outright failure.

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the same problem that every mid 80's zeitgeist based resurrected IP faces:

The zeitgeist the movie is based on has been dead for at least 30 years.

For Tron, personal computers aren't new anymore. The concept of a digital city is so much less exciting once you've lived with the internet for 20 years and heard mark Zuckerberg wank endlessly about the "metaverse."

I think audiences were ready for visiting the virtual world in 2010. Smart phones were new and cool and not sinister yet, it was possible to feel hopeful for the internet...15 years later, not so much.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

I liked Tron and Tron Legacy (haven't watched Ares), but Disney has spent the last decade plus killing good franchises with shitty scripts, so I'm leaning more towards Disney being the problem.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The concept of Tron,is a good one. And the first movie, while not perfect, is pretty good. Theres enough there, that Disney could have created its very own Star Wars franchise. Instead they bought Star Wars, and gave it the Tron treatment to make sure that died as well.

The problem is very much Disney. With Marvel, they got the right creatives together to make mostly solid movies that people liked. Over the past 5 years, they have pissed all that away with being Disney things. And a few months ago, I read that they were looking for another ip to buy so they could bring the gen Z male audience back... Which is telling as fuck, when they have Marvel and Star Wars, but dont know how to make them appeal to the younger male audience so much that they need to buy another IP.

[–] SavageCoconut@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Instead they bought Star Wars, and gave it the Tron treatment to make sure that died as well.

actually, disney's SW was going to be John Carter and they killed it in favor of SW.

Which is telling as fuck, when they have Marvel and Star Wars, but dont know how to make them appeal to the younger male audience so much that they need to buy another IP.

Well, disney never knew how to handle SW at any point. They had luck with The Mandalorian S01 and with Rogue One, and Rebels, but that's it… they are a girls/family company and that's it. Pixar was other thing but now they are Pixaren't after disney bought them.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

actually, disney’s SW was going to be John Carter and they killed it in favor of SW.

They killed it when they took off the FROM MARS part!

John Carter. Who the fuck is John Carter?!

John Carter FROM MARS! Ooohhh, it's a sci-fi. I'm in!

Good script, good acting, good source material, good director that was really into the source material, shit marketing.