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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not calling for violence, none at all, but peaceful protests like these that one day are and the next day aren't are just ignored.

At the very least make it a protest that bever stops. Every day people are on the streets. Block the streets, whatever it takes, within a non violent protest, to get their attention and keep it

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Abolitionist movements, women's suffrage movements, and civil rights movements were all successful non-violent resistance movements.

What did violent resistance movements achieve other than getting a bunch of people killed? Oh right sometimes the leaders of violent resistance movements get power and there is the 100% predictable result of putting violent people into power.

On the internet there's always some foreign troll farm whispering "burn down your own capital" in everyone's ears all of the time in every country they don't like. But it's stupid to listen to them, their motives aren't to improve anything for you, they just want to create chaos.

Violent resistances don't accomplish anything. Non-violent resistances have accomplished a lot if you actually study history instead of listening to the troll farms.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do the studies say on countries free falling into a dictatorship?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Most fascist movements actually fade away. We tend not to focus on those too much since it's not as interesting as the fascist movements that started WWII.

It's not as exciting to do non-violent resistance, but it makes it difficult for authoritarians to accomplish anything and failed authoritarians don't have a very long lifespan. There are those that respect authoritarians because "they get things done" but when the opposite happens and nothing works as good as it used to they aren't respected by anyone. Even an authoritarian needs a base of support to have power and through non-violent resistance this can be accomplished.

Violent resistance actually helps a fascist movement in the early stages. See the assassination of Charlie Kirk... it didn't weaken them in any way, it actually made them stronger. A loner with a gun isn't going to change anything, even a small armed group can't change anything. You need to build a significant base of support to accomplish anything and that's what the No Kings group is doing. Most likely the non-violent resistance will succeed, and even in the case where the fascists use violence against a non-violent movement, there's actually a framework for a resistance movement to succeed by other means.

You gotta have numbers to accomplish anything and No Kings is building up their numbers. That's a real movement that can do something more than just whining on the internet.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yep, for these things to matter there has to be no end in sight until those that want the change get heard and taken seriously.

Bonus points if they are headed up by sympathetic and visible politicians and/or other public figures. A well spoken orator in the vein of MLK at a podium giving a loud united voice to these sorts of movements are what creates something non-violent that is really hard for those in power or those on the side lines that would otherwise support the movement to sweep it under the rug as a one off.

this,

it's shareholders who prop up trump.

as soon a protests start hurting the economy and their bank accounts they'll drop trump like a turd