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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe it's the people I talk to, but has the Israel thing ever really been all that popular with the Democratic base?

I just assumed it was the corporate news masquerading as "liberal media" that kept that facade going....

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Supporting Israel was never really popular in the sense of being something that the Democratic base was clamoring for, but now it's become so unpopular that it's something candidates feel the need to hide or run away from.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I think it's mostly because the facade cannot be propped up by the corporate media any more. It's so glaringly obvious that calling everyone that criticizes Israel's foreign policy and America's unwavering support for it "antisemitic" just isn't going to fly any more and that most people openly point and laugh at the attempts now...

I guess Chomsky was considered outside the acceptable parameters of discussion in the corporate media/"liberal media"/MSM, but he has been pointing out what outliers both Israel and the U.S. are and have been for things like UN votes for decade upon decade.

I'd be surprised if a majority of Democratic voters even know who Chomsky is, and I'm sure quite a bit less have read him or have seen him talk, but even those that haven't probably have had their own thoughts about blind support of Israel maintaining an open-air prison. Out of fear of being called an "anti-semite", maybe 20-25 years ago, they might have kept that to themselves. I think the 'net started to change that quite some time ago, though.

It sure is interesting to see someone like Seinfeld still floating along on the vapors of the old paradigm, though.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

I tend to talk with people at the dog park. They are by and large very very stupid.