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[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like it is a bit more nuanced. Yes TOS was forward leaning on race issues. But it was conservative in other areas such as pro-Vietnam War (as seen in the conclusion of "Private Little War") and anti-hippie (as seen in "Way to Eden"). Today's Trek is much more liberal overall when you look at it taken as a whole IMHO.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every hippie I've ever met has been a racist piece of shit. Hippies were anti war, anti draft privileged children of upper middle class white families. Free love, as long as it was heteronormative, drugs for everybody, as long as they're white.

It's not surprising that Trek didn't embrace that movement.

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Steve Jobs was a hippie. He changed the world. The counter culture played a big part in the invention of the personal computer. Trek rejected this aspect of the 60’s era free thought, and embraced the more conservative Nixon silent majority view. Pretty far from social justice IMHO.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Steve Jobs was a hippie.

Steve Jobs was a fucking moron.

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Touche. Your erudite scholarship wins the day yet again.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Ok. Steve Jobs was an effective leader, who made some fatally stupid decisions, was so hard to work with he got fired for being an asshole more than once, and blatantly lied about the fathership of his own child because he didn't feel like being a father. When literally everybody knew he was the only person that even could be the father, including Jobs himself.