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New research suggests more newcomers to Canada have chosen to leave in recent years, a threat to a country that relies on immigration to drive population and economic growth.

The rate of immigrants leaving the country, or onward migration, has been steadily increasing since the 1980s and is rising among recent cohorts, suggesting newcomers “may not be seeing the benefits of moving to Canada,” according to a study on immigrant retention by the Institute for Canadian Citizenship and the Conference Board of Canada.

The report, published Tuesday, underscored the risks of Canada failing to meet expectations of newcomers, who are facing worsening housing affordability, a strained health-care system and underemployment, among other issues. It also highlighted how disillusionment among immigrants can slow down progress even in a country that consistently sets fresh records for population gains.

“It’s a reflection on our broader society and more intractable failings that we have. If immigrants are saying ‘no, thanks’ and moving on, that’s a real existential threat to Canada’s prosperity,” Daniel Bernhard, chief executive officer of the Institute for Canadian Citizenship, a pro-immigration advocacy group, said in an interview. “We need to wake up and recognize that if we don’t deliver, people will leave. And if they leave, we’re in trouble.”

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government has been using immigration to rapidly add more workers to stave off economic decline from an aging populace. But record population growth in recent years has led to growing criticism that its policies have exacerbated existing housing shortages and added more pressure on infrastructure and services like health care.

The report showed spikes in the annual rates of immigrants leaving Canada in 2017 and 2019, reaching 20-year highs of 1.1 per cent and 1.18 per cent, respectively. That’s compared to the average of 0.9 per cent of people who were granted permanent residence after 1982 who leave Canada each year. While the numbers may not sound significant, they add up over time and can lead to attrition of 20 per cent or more of an arrival cohort over 25 years.

Earlier this week, a survey by Environics Institute showed waning public support for high levels of immigration due to concerns of housing affordability and availability. That dwindling support, combined with growing dissatisfaction among newcomers, will be a fresh challenge for a government that’s trying to placate an outcry over an affordability crisis while competing in a global race for skilled workers.

The lack of enthusiasm for staying in Canada, which led to onward migration by some newcomers, is also behind a sharp drop in immigrants choosing to become Canadians, according to Bernhard. The proportion of permanent residents who took up citizenship within 10 years of arrival dropped by 40 per cent between 2001 and 2021.

“If Canada can’t reverse these issues and can’t provide these vital services and affordability, immigrants will leave,” Bernhard said. “We need to be working harder to make sure that they’re happy here, so that they contribute here, become Canadians and contribute to our shared success. We need to realize that on balance, immigrants may owe Canada less than Canada owes immigrants.”

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[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Can you blame them? I feel I had more freedom 10 years ago making minimum wage than I do now with an adult job and salary. We are being milked dry and it only gets worse.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's worse is that not a single politician seems to worry about housing costs/cost of living. All they talk about is scandals and foreign affairs, while Canadians drown in debt

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

About 99% of politicians are landlords.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And PP is trying to line things up so the big "cost of living" debate of the next election will be the carbon tax. Out of all the costs of daily living, they will spend their time bickering over the only one that gets rebated.

[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

If Canadians are concerned about cost of living then the obvious answer is not voting for a Conservative. Conservative policies lead to expansive futures.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It gets even worse if you're from the US, which requires you to continue to pay taxes, even if you're on the other side of the world. Then you have to pay US taxes and Canadian taxes, or, in the case of one of my friends, US and Finnish taxes.

The US is one of only two countries that attach taxes to citizenship and not current residence. The other is Eritrea, a country mainly known for its near-total lack of civil rights and freedom of the press; a country which regularly sits near or at the bottom of any list or study that attempts to score things like human rights and freedom of speech. Funny, because one of our parties seems to think Eritrea is a cool place to emulate.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

US gives tax credits for any taxes you paid to your resident country. You therefore only pay the taxes if US taxes are higher than your resident country, which is almost never case. So really you just have to file US taxes not actually pay anything more.

[–] festus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I believe that's only true if the countries have a reciprocal tax treaty. In practice I think the US has one with most countries, but I'm sure there are exceptions where both the US and that country would expect you to pay their full taxes.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

I have a friend who's been living in Finland for years who still has to pay taxes to the US. Granted, he may be fucking up his taxes and he is a freelancer, so that might make things different, but yeah. You have to pay a lot more in taxes as a freelancer than if you're employed by a company (companies have to pay 50% of taxes, so if you're a freelancer then you have to cover the amount that'd normally be covered by your employer).

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

No kidding. I was able to comfortably live on a minimum wage job in 2007 in the GTA.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right! If things go thru I'll be out of here in a couple of years too. Tired of living under the heel of a corporation.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To where though? Surely corporations and their negative influences on life is something felt everywhere?

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

EU. I’ve been scouting some Nordic countries and I would double my salary and my rent would drop about %30. All where you’re not worked to death, eat real food and get better health care for free because you’re a human. Some of them give 2 month vacations base (Italy).

Here, I’m working to death so my boss can stack another million to his bank account next year. And I get less than 10% of that. Gonna tap out.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What field do you work in if you don't mind me asking?

I've heard that EU countries have better quality of life, but poorer wages/higher taxes.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Technical artist in gaming.

I mean it all depends where. I was looking specifically at places with higher pay and lower rent/mortgages. Out of the 12ish, 3 stood out (I think Sweden, Finland, and I can’t recall the third but I was surprised that Norway wasn’t it) to be a huge boost for me just financially.

Quality of life, so health care and how you are generally treated at work was also high on the list. Through my research, I was surprised that Austria had great support for its citizens especially when it came to housing and built most of its apartment units with grocery stores and gyms and daycares for families.

I have an EU visa so for me, I would sorta just be going home.

All I can say is that all the dat I saw, NA was near the bottom for a first world nation when it came to wages, treatment and benefits of any kind. The only thing we lead in is consumption of everything.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You had less freedom than 10 years ago? Freedom to do what?

[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Income to expenses. I could afford to travel once every 2 years, buy fresh produce, order takeout or eat at a restaurant once every week or two.

No matter how much I cut down expenses the cost continues to creep up while my wages don't. I do not pay for any subscriptions and I don't drink Starbucks - just the cheapest instant coffee I can find.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gotcha. Yeah, inflation is hitting everyone but millionaires. I'm getting into shape and eating healthy isn't cheap but now eating out isn't cheap either. Had Opa the other day for supper and it was $24 for a Gyro wrap and a side Calamari. Like god damn, $24?? I can buy 1kg of chicken for less and that's like 3-4 meals.

[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it's insane when you look at cost per meal. My grocery budget is $40 per week, a bit under $6 per day or $2 per meal. So one dining experience is easily 10x my usual meal cost - very difficult to justify. And very easy to blow the week's budget on a single meal.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also find home cooked meals, even cooked by me are much better than anything I buy. I know how much salt I'm adding, I know what I'm not adding and it always, always tastes better. $6 day is impressive bro. I'm spending 50-60$ every 3-4 days easily.

[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Meal planning/prep helps, and buying things in bulk of course. Potatoes, rice, pasta, soup broth, tomato sauce, frozen veggies - anything that can be "stretched" to make multiple meals.

There are a few certain dishes I can't get close to in deliciousness no matter how much I try - especially butter chicken, compared to the local Indian place, it's no contest! Unfortunately that's a $30 meal with garlic naan (which is mandatory)!