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That's the difference between the two sides. The Arabs want Israel gone and the Jews killed. Israel doesn't have a problem with Arabs as long as they accept their existence.
Sorry, there have been dozens of chances for Arabs to accept a peace deal. Again and again it was refused because it would allow Israel to exist. These nations are Arab. Some of them democratic. Overall aside from Egypt (and who knows where they actually stand now) the Arab nations around Israel have one goal that's been repeated by many protesters around the globe. "From the river to the sea" Arabs not only around Israel but around the world call for the total extermination of Israel and the Jewish people. I'm done with tankies batting for them because Israel is backed by the US. Israel has a right to exist. And it has a right to defend itself against Arab aggression.
Does Palestine have the right to defend itself against Isreali aggression?
Does someone assaulting you have the right to protect himself against your self defense?
Do you think the recent Hamas attack was the first aggression in a vacuum?
Both Hamas and the Isreali government have committed violence over the years, but you are framing it as Hamas taking the first step and ignoring the fact that Hamas came to power as retaliation against Isreali blockades and violent settlement of Palestine. Both are terrible and both are the aggressors or defending themselves depending on the time frame.
Isreal has the upper hand and is actively committing atrocities in response to an atrocity. Phrasing the current actions by Isreal that is causing a lot of collateral damage to civilians as defending themselves gives them a free pass to do whatever they want, and what a lot of Isreali leadership wants is to kill or drive out Palestians and take their land.
I don't appreciate your casual racism.
And I don't appreciate your lack of knowledge of the history of the conflict. It's been Arabs vs. Israel for every single war between them. The "Arab Liberation Army" (look up the logo, and yes, Arab not Palestinian) was one of the first major armies fighting Israel. The non Jewish people in the area that was the Mandate for Palestine considered themselves Arabs and not Palestinian. After the Liberation War it was the Arabs that expelled the Jews from their lands. Iraq, Jordan, Yemen and others suppressed and expelled their Jewish population after losing the war against Israel. Calling people racist for calling out Arabs for their antisemitism is laughable at best.
'The Jews' are not committing war crimes in Gaza, the IDF is. Assigning actions of a related political body to an entire ethnic group is racism.