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i wonder if when AI bubble bursts the serverhalls will shut down and the financial dependency on fossil fuels will go past a tipping point (piefed.social)
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[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The prices will eventually get jacked up once the market penetration is judged sufficient. Likely they'll charge as much money as they can, so it'll end up being just a hair under what a human would cost, maybe more of the switching cost is high.

I smell a trap.

[–] gid@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the intention. David Rosenthal recently wrote a blog piece about it. It goes quite deep into the economics but this is what I understand from the piece:

  • Pricing for AI services is modelled after "the drug-dealer's algorithm" (the first go is free)
  • Specifically for enterprise usage, the model assumes that enterprises will find that using the service gives enough value to cover the subsidised cost of the service through the lock-in period.
  • The assumed depreciation of hardware used in AI services is wrong, and the bubble will burst soon. Providers will have to raise prices significantly to remain solvent.
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Good piece.