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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

However, without confirming in reality, some took it to mean that the peasantry would oppose socialism if they weren't already proletarianized. It isn't quite as stupid as it sounds.

I can see how someone unfamiliar with the countryside could make the assumption. However, as a person who's lived and worked on a farm it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Farming communities are extremely interdependent on the local community to get just about anything done. No one person or family can work the land by themselves, it really does take a community if you're not a wealthy land holder.

Trots take it to mean that all socialist countries are generally highly flawed to outright bad

Yeah.... He was a messy bitch about a lot of things. Really a mixed bag of conflicting ideas in that little dude.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Communalist, not collectivist. Tiny cells of interdependent local groups are different from the large, widespread connections of socialism.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right.... But one could say the same about the proletariat pre-revolution.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

No, proletarian production is more socialized, as is proletarian ideology. It's part of why cities and rural areas have different political views.