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Physicalism or materialism. The idea that everything there is arises from physical matter. If true would mean there is no God or Free Will, no immortal soul either.

Seems to be what most of academia bases their world view on and the frame work in which most Science is done.

Often challenged by Dualism and Idealism but only by a loud fringe minority.

I've heard pan-psychicism is proving quite the challenge, but I hear that from people who believe crystals can cure autism

I hear that "Oh actually the science is moving away from materialism" as well, but that seems to be more crystal talk as well.

So lemme ask science instead of google.

Any reason to doubt physicalism? Is there anything in science that says "Huh well that seems to not have any basis in the physical at all and yet it exists"

Edit: I have heard of the Essentia Foundation and Bernado Kastrup but since it's endorsed by Deepak Chopra I'm not sure I can trust it

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[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It sounds like you're trying to use the wrong tool, though. Science is a great system for learning about the observable universe, but less so for other things. To put it another way, science is great for telling you how, philosophy is great for exploring why.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But aren't most philosophers Physicalists who just say "Listen to the science"

[–] reliv3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Science isn't actually "physicalist". In fact one major theory in science, Quantum Mechanics, would probably challenge physicalism since quantum suggests that there will always be unknowable physical quantities regarding any given particle of matter. It also suggests that particles of matter (and light) must interact with an observer in order to exist in a state where some physical quantities can be known; else these particles exist only in an exotic state of indefinite probalistic fluctuations.

I must say though, even though quantum challenges physicalism, quantum's model of the universe truly rejects the possibility of any omniscient entity. Omniscience requires the ability to know everything about the universe and quantum suggests that this is in fact impossible; therefore a truly omniscient god would be impossible. It was for this reason that god-fearing Albert Einstein rejected quantum mechanics up until his death bed.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

It also suggests that particles of matter (and light) must interact with an observer in order to exist in a state where some physical quantities can be known; else these particles exist only in an exotic state of indefinite probalistic fluctuations.

That is not how the Dual Slit works

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Science explains the strong nuclear force. We have a fair understanding of how it works. Why is there a strong nuclear force? Why is the Planck length the size it is? Science can't answer those kinds of questions, nor what is good or evil, or if they even exist outside of the hearts of man. The best Science can give for those questions is "because". And philosophers? Well, they can't give firm answers, either, certainly no more solid than "listen to the science," but that's mostly because a lot of those kind of questions don't really have answers. That we know of, anyway, and some people find that hard so they fall back on the answers they do have, and say "listen to the science."