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An estimated $4 to $20 billion in value, what is he thinking?

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[–] donuts@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This fucking dude could have spent <$1M hiring a small team to spin up a heavily customized X-branded Mastodon server, but instead he spent $44 BILLION dollars buying and ruining Twitter.

How fucking crazy is that? That's fucking crazy... right?

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is the guy who decided to build a tunnel under LA to skip traffic and then instead built one in las vegas that gets traffic jams

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yes but he built it in las vegas. It has a few stops and relies on teslas, each with a driver, and it functions as a very basic "public transit" system. Almost none of what he initially promised are present in the final design. Originally it was going to be his "hyperloop" thing. Then it was "autonomous vehicles." Now it's "teslas driven by people"

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This makes the most sense. Man he's trying really hard to not admit that a subway works pretty well, isn't he?

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha you are right, he did try to reinvent the subway!

And any of the problems he mentioned could basically be fixed by spending -more- on public transit, rather than less… with the exception of it leaving from wherever you want and there being other people (though the more they run, the fewer people need to take each).

That's what bugs me about all of his "inventions", is that they aren't really new ideas, or even if they are they're wildly expensive for the benefits. Cities like Vegas look at him and thought "Oh wow finally we'll solve traffic with these new ideas!" when really they just need to invest in actual proven infrastructure like subways and commuter rail.

It's well known that Elon pitched the hyperloop in California because he wanted to kill California's high speed rail, because he'd rather have people buy Teslas then have an inexpensive fast way to travel between cities. He delayed the project for years over his wild claims, and people are still hesitant to it thanks to his selfishness.

[–] figment@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

edit: Why do I fucking try, this is ridiculous. Just trying to hold people accountable for their bullshit. Go fuck yourselves.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got any sources for that? I've never seen anyone claim it's a success

[–] figment@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's a source for passing the capacity requirement during a test. Again I'm not saying it's going to work when scaled but so far it seems plausible and was far cheaper than building a train or rail between the ends of the convention center. And it has the wow factor.

The big benefits are supposed to come once the vehicles can skip all other stops and go directly to the destination. We'll see.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

So they passed the tests they set for capacity? Eh, not really impressed. Thanks though.

[–] QHC@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it better than a light rail system, or would that not help sell enough products from a company owned by Musk?

[–] figment@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

At least provide a comment in good faith instead of sarcastic bullshit, this isn't Reddit.

[–] moomoomoo309@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the capacity of the Vegas loop as compared to, say, an extra small subway or even an aboveground streetcar?

[–] figment@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's definitely less than that. The advantages will be when you're able to get in a vehicle and input your destination and it can go straight there without a single other stop. In theory at least. I'm not saying it's genius but it's an interesting concept and I'm curious to see if it works when scaled.

[–] moomoomoo309@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Given the short distance it goes and the fact that it has human drivers currently...I'm doubtful it's going to scale at all. In its current iteration, a small train would have been better in just about every way. I wouldn't praise it for what it will be, praise it for what it is, because Elon Musk loves to promise the moon and stars and not deliver on those promises.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just trying to hold people accountable for their bullshit. Go fuck yourselves.

If I recall correctly, you tried to "hold me accountable" by claiming I was slandering him and coming up with lies, when in fact none of what I said was even a lie. In fact, you even said yourself that it gets backed up "sometimes," which is what I mean by traffic jams.

It sounds to me like you need to learn what the word slander, actually means. Also, I reported this because it's rude as hell.

[–] figment@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are making a mountain out of a molehill and cherry picking gripes. I am done with this shit.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Good. People like you are not welcome here