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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough in the sense that their exact origin isn't stated so I can't point to a passage and call you a damn casual. I will note that breeding them doesn't mean they didn't start as some kind of ainur or whatever.

I'm curious how you think Ancalagon the Black is a pure product of animal husbandry though.

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the same kind of deal as with the orcs. Morgoth couldn't create anything, but he could twist existing creations into exciting new forms.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And he starts with creatures of power... Which in Tolkien are always creatures of spirit, especially in the First Age.

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, no, he created orcs before he did dragons, and there was definitely nothing spiritual about the orcs.