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Feeding local wildlife (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 weeks ago by Lemminary@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

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[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I never treated all or any birds at bird feeders as invasive. I said that they have no predators because we killed them all. I haven’t seen any data on how many birds a cat can kill vs an owl…I suspect an owl is more effective. I haven’t seen any data that suggests that cats are threatening any bird populations.

It just sounds like something that need to be managed…and we should consider something other than the cute birds we want at bird feeders.

Humans brought rodents, and killed their predators. Are cats killing more rats and mice than a weasel could? Unlikely.

Some edge case about a cat wiping out a bird population on an island 100 years ago doesn’t interest me.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

100 years ago? Really? Why are you assuming I'm talking about the past? Educate yourself.

Also, here's a scientific study completely disproving your unfounded suppositions

Note that while domestic cats are unlikely to venture far, they don't need to, as native birds fly into residential neighbourhoods without issue. Regardless, they are between 10 and 100 times more effective at killing wildlife than a comparable predator such as a weasel or owl.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, it doesn’t. Despite you using the term “wildlife”, there’s nothing wild about the habitat of cats. If cats lived in a place with natural predators and without humans protecting them, there’d be barely any cats.

I get it…you’re an anti-cat crusader. You got radicalized about a minor problem amidst all the major problem of human behaviour destroying habitat and wiping out species. I empathize…I hate invasive species, including humans.

I propose that you do something meaningful, like opposing materialism as a lifestyle, rather that getting outraged about some boutique issue. Sure, if it comes up, don’t own a cat or encourage people to get one if you don’t have livestock.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bold to assume I cannot be angry about multiple things. Bolder to assume I hate cats. What I am "crusading" against is your inability to understand basic biological concepts or acknowledge simple evidence. Since you cannot even be bothered to comprehend actual refutations when they are labeled on a platter, I return to my first comment:

Mind like an ocean, indeed.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You’re projecting and seem to be more concerned with owning me and changing the subject to things you’re technically correct about.

I’m all for a conversation about eliminating cats…but the way to do that isn’t to waste your time on the cats themselves, but rather the overarching impulses. If you have an indoor cat, the problems you’re going to cause to the environment just buying things for your stupid cat is going to be more harmful than having an outdoor cat. Git it?