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Here's everything we know about it so far:

  • It will use ActivityPub.
  • It will be a side app of Instagram.
  • It will most likely be called Threads.
  • Your Instagram verification status will transfer over.
  • There will be easy discovery tools in place: Your Instagram followers will be able to follow you on Threads as well (they won't transfer over automatically).

What do you think?

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[–] Andreas@feddit.dk 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Meta's main income stream is data mining and they will take advantage of federation to collect data (not metadata, but human-generated content is still very valuable for AI model training) of users on federated instances. Any content that federates over to this instance will be cached on Meta servers where they can do whatever they like with it. There is no legal data protection framework for content retrieved from federated networks and Meta's lawyers will try to argue that federating with this platform counts as giving consent to the platform's TOS. Meta platforms introduce lots of advertising and bots to the network. Don't just ignore this platform, give them the Gab treatment.

[–] semibreve42@lemmy.dupper.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If a large corp wants to do what you’re suggesting, they don’t need to launch a big announced project.

They can spin up a federated instance with just one user and no references to who owns it, then have patsy accounts on other instances subscribe to their instance and get all the data they want sent to their semi secret instance.

It would be very difficult to identify this in a large, healthy federation with tons of users and lots of small personal instances.

[–] Andreas@feddit.dk 4 points 1 year ago

Anyone can scrape data and corporations are already doing it. But data scraping is considered a legal gray zone and companies can be prevented from accessing data that they are not legally authorized to use, which is why companies like OpenAI retrieve their training data from data dumps and don't just run web crawlers across the entire internet. A publicly announced platform with an appropriate clause in its Terms of Service can grant Meta the legal ownership of all data from the fediverse that arrives on their platform.

[–] bird@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yep I agree. I saw a similar sentiment on discord regarding data harvesting and defederation. They are going to do it regardless and there’s not much anyone can do to stop them.

If these large sites start communicating via activitypub, it will be interesting to see how it changes dynamics. It would be interesting to be able to see and follow friends from social networks I left behind over the years.

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