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Of the total area that is used by humans (Agriculture, Urban and Built-up Land),

  • urban and built-up land is 1m km²,
  • agriculture is 48m km²,

so agriculture is 48 of 49 millions km² used, that's 98%. The remaining 2% are all streets and housing and other infrastructure together.

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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

thanks for the reply

I didn't mean to be rude, but I thought short replies were the norm here.

I'm just skeptical.

I'm very much looking forward to your citations.

thank you!

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

This thread is averaging paragraph length responses, what could have given you the idea that short-form demands for citations on claims you could verify with a trivial web search was the norm here? That seems like total BS to cover for being called out over your habit of rather arrogant sealioning.

There's a great deal more data available which also supports my conclusions, I encourage you to engage with the subject matter directly in light of that.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

your numbers are in per capita rates, but Asia is exploding in population, and still increasing in consumption per capita.

I don't think there is any reason to believe meat consumption is decreasing. it's probably increasing

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

For someone that spends this much time policing other people's claims, you're remarkably bad at interpreting data or the initial claims said person actually made.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

you're remarkably bad at interpreting data

saying it doesn't make it true.

if I've said something wrong, you can explain it

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's a great deal more data available which also supports my conclusions, I encourage you to engage with the subject matter directly in light of that.

our exchanges, until now, have been solely on the subject matter. this aside belies an interest, on your part, in making the matter personal instead.

please, engage with the subject matter.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Would you mind consolidating your replies? This is going to get confusing. Also, no, I had already criticized your behavior prior to that comment.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

I had already criticized your behavior prior to that comment.

where?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

instead of criticizing my style, try to stick with the subject matter

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's like engaging with a bad-faith hydra - one of these is literally just a single word reply. If you can't even make your nonsense feasible to engage with why should I extend you the courtesy of treating you as anything other than the poor troll you're behaving like?

You've misunderstood my initial claims and/or the data, which are both abundantly clear - and on top of that you've spent this whole time acting like a jerk. I'm not going to reward this behavior.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

this is just posturing and accusations. your evidence doesn't sufficiently support the claim you e made, and now you're making excuses not to present sufficient evidence. I strongly suspect you don't have it.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Lmfao I already provided evidence that 1:1 matches exactly what I said (because I based my initial claims off it), quit yer bullshit.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

saying it doesn't make it true

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't make it false, either. That's the nice thing about truth, it doesn't care what you think about it, it's just self-evident. Good grief you're really not very good at this.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

anyone can read what you claimed, evaluate the supposed evidence you provided, and see it does not support your claim.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well no, they can read the evidence and then draw their own conclusions. I'm not so arrogant as to try and speak for them, a moral burden you appear delightfully unencumbered by.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

anyone who believes what you've presented supports your claim does not understand the claim or the evidence or both.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So now you're not only trying to speak for them, you're implying they're stupid? Bold move there buddy.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Wut? So you admit you can't... what, win on the merits of your argument? Was that your goal here? Well good, hopefully you choose not to be such a dick when engaging with people next time.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

your habit of rather arrogant sealioning.

asking for sources for dubious claims isn't sealioning, but your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That's not how bad faith engagement works, and my claims are not dubious, they're directly supported by the data.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

That's not how bad faith engagement works

for someone who purports to know, you are either lying, or out of your depth

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

not the data you've provided. do you have some more?