Steam Hardware
A place to discuss and support all Steam Hardware, including Steam Deck, Steam Machine, Steam Frame, and SteamOS in general.
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The only thing I open in the Quest Home is Virtual Desktop, which then opens any PC game through Open XR or Steam VR fine. That said, I'll probably get a frame as soon as they're available in Aus. as well as the new controller.
Can you install software directly to the device without a Facebook account? Can you update the device firmware without a Facebook account? If you buy a new one right now, can you play games on it without a Facebook account? Can it serve as a display for your PC without a Facebook account? Can you modify or alter the games and software installed on the system with third-party tools? If you get account/IP banned from Facebook for not providing/verifying your real identity when making the account, does your headset become a paperweight?
That's what the "meta ecosystem" means. If you can't operate the device without signing into a Meta account in good standing, the ecosystem is locked down. A corporation can break your toy whenever they want to. The Quest's price to specs ratio is fantastic specifically because Facebook knows they basically have to undercut their competitors to that level to sell people Facebook accounts and make those people use their own software store, even if one or two Enlightened Individuals can manage to only make a Facebook account and use their store to download the PC connect stuff.
I personally consider the Quest at $500 to be an $800 headset that pays me $300 to make a Facebook account and that deal isn't good enough for me.
What on Earth are you talking about?
I've completely deleted my Facebook account and can still use it just fine. They removed that requirement fairly quickly after introducing it after the massive backlash. I have an oculus account, and I don't give them any money in it. I bought Virtual Desktop on the Sidequest store and haven't spent a cent since. The only vr games I play are in Steam, and they're pretty much all racing simulators.
"I have an oculus account"
Same thing. Facebook = meta = oculus. The ability to even have something called an oculus account is purely grandfathered in, lucky you for getting one in the good ol days and only giving facebook money once to use your headset as a pc display, but nobody else can do that ever again. It's a "meta account" now.
"We don't require a facebook account, we require a meta account"
"We don't eat dairy, we eat cheese"