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The fact this came from hexbear.net immediately raises some mental alarms in my head. So, before forming an opinion on this matter...I read the GNOME blog post and processed the presented information before deciding: hexshitpost or no. I found the blog post to ultimately be built on a strong foundation of knowledge/sources; written in a neutral and non-combative tone that calls out System76 without being incendiary or unnecessarily cruel. The case being lain out about System76's many incidents of spreading harmful misinformation about GNOME makes me understand why GNOME does have some haters these days in the Linux space...
It's curious that instead of polishing COSMIC before pushing it out in the world, they released a broken version of what should've been something cool! I agree, perhaps working with GNOME and KDE would've been better if System76 wasn't going to meaningfully invest in COSMIC's stability before release. I'm sure they'll fix it in post launch updates. From my brief experience with COSMIC, it did have the bones for a good DE, however, the polish was lacking. It made me sad and switch to Bazzite.
I did too have a look at the post for the same reasons and did visit some of the links given there. Honestly it looks more to me like tribalism than anything, see for instance comments and discussions here:
https://blogs.gnome.org/seb128/2019/06/27/system76-pop-os-team-should-learn-to-work-with-their-upstreams/
or
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/c67pkm/comment/es6p3zq/
I think by now both groups are so entrenched in their position that they convey things from a strongly biased position and don't have any desire to find a common ground.
Yeah, tribalism does happen in a lot of tech related spaces in addition to anywhere else in life. I think that GNOME devs and System76 will remain separate FOSS tribes that can never know peace between them. In a lot of cases, I feel that System76 started the hostility. However, GNOME seems fairly entrenched in their own ideas. I don't find GNOME bad by any means, it's just a REALLY opinionated DE that I can tolerate in little doses. I much prefer KDE for the flexibility it grants without installing a lot of extensions.
GNOME isn't hated by most linux users. That's nonsense
Definitely some, I over-exaggerate, I've seen some concentrated hate in certain places for GNOME.
I agree with that. Apart from that your post was really good and that made it look bad
I changed the wording to some haters. As there is some hate, but, anything with a critical mass is going to attract some haters.
If you actually interact with Hexbear, you fill find meaningful and balanced interactions from an actually leftist & progressive perspective, just FYI.
Don't believe all the slander you hear BTW.
"Leftists" who love the CCP, Vladimir Putin, Mao Zedong,
<insertAuthoritarianBullyHere>, etc.The denizens of HexBear are temporarily inconvenienced dictators in waiting.
Sure, buddy, all the love for CCP, Vladimir Putin, Mao Zedong is slander...HexBear is basically lemmy.ml with a mask on. That has a similar issue of somewhat sane topic based communities with all the Authoritarian bootlicking in different places. The second you slander any of these revered authoritarian bully in their subs (usually in relevant places like news), you're reported and face banning.