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To add insult to injury, what they call it, Deutschland, sounds like what we should call Netherlands

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[–] El_Scapacabra@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Deutschland, sounds like what we should call Netherlands

Until you then find out that the Netherlands is actually called "Nederland" in the Netherlands. And the reason they'd called "Dutch" in America is due to an archaic mix-up between the two nationalities.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It’s not really a mix-up. More a continuation of an old name for the language spoken in the Netherlands. The Dutch centuries ago called their language Diets/Duuts/Duits which means something like Germanic. This was before the countries Germany and the Netherlands existed.

Diets is not a single language but a name for all the different regional languages spoken in the low lands. Diets is also known as Middle Dutch. The name was used to differentiate the languages from the Romance languages.

Hence why the English called the people of the low lands Dutch since the people of the low lands said they were speakers of Diets/Duuts/Duits.

Also in the Dutch national anthem there is a line that says “Ben ik van Duitsen bloed” “I am of Dutch/Deutsche blood” which does not refer to modern day Deutschland but to what all Germanic people in the low lands, what is now present day Netherlands, would call themselves back then.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Dutch centuries ago called their language Diets/Duuts/Duits which means something like Germanic.

No, it means something like "people" or "of the people".

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait, so Dutch is the language of people and everyone else has been using animal languages this whole time!?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

This is what confused me so much about germany's real name :)

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do people from the Netherlands call themselves if not Dutch or the Dutch?

Like, people from the United States call themselves Americans, there's the Spanish and French.

Are they called Netherlanders or something?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well in Dutch they call themselves Nederlanders or Hollanders. Though Hollanders is technically only correct if they are from the Dutch province North-Holland or South-Holland

here is a CGP Grey video about the difference between Holland and the Netherlands https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc

And the reason why the Netherlands is also known as Holland is basically before the unification of the Low Lands every province was a self governing state and Holland was the richest province. Hence why most traders who went abroad from the Low Lands were people from Holland. It's therefore why people abroad would call the Low Lands Holland since Hollanders were the only people from the Low Lands they met and and after the Netherlands was formed the name Holland for that area stuck in many languages.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Holland is fairytale beautiful. Would happily live there. I loved visiting.

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most Dutch people I met just call it Holland. We do so in Denmark as well

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"We" call it Holland because foreigners say "eh?" when we call it the Netherlands.

[–] Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Its the worst. Always try a "Netherlands" and get a "what??" in return and then say "Holland" - "ooooooh HOLLAND!"...

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] bestelbus22@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah wierd situation. Internally it only refers to the 2 provinces in the west but externally we all chant it during football matches