cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/nonpolitical_comics/p/1657114/mr-lovenstein-volume
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Part of it could either be that they’re not spending the time for a home release audio mix, don’t want to for purity’s sake or I’ve seen issues with trying to condense surround soundscapes down to stereo.
It all comes down to dynamic range and they should be using all of it for theatrical release and then remastering for home release.
TV shows do not get a pass. Cinephile audio engineers that think the vast majority of their listeners will have home theater setups are just plain delusional.
The way they do dynamic range in movie theaters sucks too. I have to wear earplugs because it's so loud.
Yes!
I may get a shit sound experience at home, but at least I have an opportunity for an even worse sound experience at my local theater, first.
Turns out when they went digital and got the popcorn kid to press play instead of a skilled projectionist, sound calibration also went away. Now they deliberately turn it up beyond the sound mixer’s specs.
Around here they do calibrate the theaters but the spec says they can still be insanely loud, as long as they're not loud all the time. The peaks are well over 100 dB.
while I agree with:
I disagree:
From my recollection, mixing audio for different scenarios is just a function you can let the speakers decide how it will mix. Not adding this basic accessibility function in the 21c is just callousness.
Depends, people with proper high dynamic range surround sound systems shouldn't be penalised when watching content
Maybe include it as an option?
By my estimates that would add up to 4ish GB to the file size per 90 minutes of content
The high dynamic range 7.1 audio is already on the disc. What we're wanting is a decent stereo mixdown. Could be 128kb mp3 for all I care. Not like I'll be able to discern a higher bitrate on my tv speakers. That should require 86MB per 90 minutes.
Low dynamic range doesn't need to be low quality though
Even high quality audio isn't 4GB for a movie. Not FLAC or even 48khz WAV.
I took my numbers from the real bitrate of a Dolby MA audio track from a bluray.
Yea, and how many people torrent the full, actual complete bluray? Why would you want to waste that much space?
Do bluray players only support Dolby MA? You realize we're talking about a situation where people DON'T want super crazy high dynamic range, perfect audio quality with 7.1 channels, right??
Modern CPUs can downmix and compress audio without a sweat, it doesn't need to be done by the studio.
Agree
Looking into it, there’s a range of standards for Blu-Ray in terms of video quality. I doubt there are a ton of discs that can’t afford a few of those 25-50GB. Just spitballing ways to make it approachable rather than say only one way is correct. There’s all sorts of fancy stuff going on with DTS. Maybe they could work compression into part of the standard and just include alternate mixes.