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I mean, yeah, being required to do something or else you'll be starving and homeless is pretty fucked up and worthy of a day being ruined.
Yeah i dont think a lot of people appreciate that its by coercion.
There's never been a point in human history where that hasn't been the case for most people.
But at no point have we ever been so detached from the means of production. Growing food has a different feeling than sitting in an office.
You're heavily romanticizing agricultural work if you think it feels better than sitting in an office.
I get it, cube farms swallow your soul. But if it wasn't more comfortable, then more people would be out in the fields growing crops and those jobs wouldn't all be outsourced to migrant laborers.
The real travesty is the appropriation of the surplus value of labor, which results from the alienation of the means of production.
The tragedy of the commons isn't that we're no longer out there doing subsistance farming. It's that corporations and private equity own everything, so the people doing the labor to produce can hardly afford to consume.
I'm speaking from personal experience, so it's more anecdotal I guess. I find working with my hands to create something I can directly trade with the person growing my food to feel alot more fulfilling than just working in an office all day. It's not just agriculture itself it's just being connected to the source of food.
Its not fucked up at all. You'll (the average person not someone with a disability preventing them from working) will always need to do something. Even welfare systems require you to do something or be kicked off.
plenty of countries have welfare systems that don't require anything to use, the incredibly small amount of "parasites" that will abuse these systems are essentially a rounding error.
most people actually don't mind working jobs, if it atleast feels like it's their own choice to work it
as a whole the US spends more time/resources trying to punish poor people than it would cost just to allow some poor people to abuse the system
Which ones are those? Because as far as I'm aware welfare requires people to be looking for work
Think of every country WalMart doesn't want you to know/bring up the labor laws of.
No, those countries still require people who are able to work to be searching for work to receive welfare. I checked germany, norwary UK and China and its the same requirement across the board.
You cannot be able to work and just decide to not work and expect to receive welfare. You must have a medical reason. I see no reason against this, its not unjust to expect people to work.