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I just don't get it.

According to the theory of special relativity, nothing can ever move faster than light speed.
But due to the expansion of the universe, sufficiently distant stars move away from us faster than the speed of light.
And the explanation is...that this universal speed limit doesn't apply to things that are really far away?
Please make it make sense!

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[–] mech@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But things are actually moving.
The movement causes light emitted from those things to redshift, like the siren of an ambulance changing its pitch when it's moving away from you. And stars we can currently still see will disappear in the future, never to be seen again, as they move outside of our observable universe, accelerating faster away from us than the light they emit.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's the thing. Nothing is actually moving, it just appears to be. Space itself is increasing in volume.

The best analogy isn't that everything's moving, it's that everything's shrinking.

If you and a friend are stood 2 metres apart and you suddenly both shrink, proportionately, to half your height, the distance between you is going to appear to have doubled, when in fact it's still 2 metres.

Universe expansion turns this on its head by the distance itself growing to 4 metres without either of you moving.

As to why this doesn't happen on local scales: gravity has a tendency to hold nearby things together. And closer still, atomic forces.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

As to why this doesn't happen on local scales: gravity has a tendency to hold nearby things together. And closer still, atomic forces.

For now. As I understand it eventually space will be so stretched out even atoms will degenerate.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i thought distance caused red-shift.. prolly semantics.. but ... do 2 stationary objects on an expanding plane 'move'?

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

An observer perceives them as moving objects, i.e. they appear to move, but they actually don't, as it's the space between them that expands.

[–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

I always thought it was more like, since light can act as a wave, it is like the wave is becoming stretched out as the space expands which creates that redshift. The light isn't moving any faster or slower, but it has a redder (lower energy) frequency. Like a plucked string that is pulled more taut as the space in between expands. It essentially loses energy, and at some point that energy loss will be significant enough for light from other galaxies no longer being detectable for us. As well as any new light emitted from them simply not being able to overcome the distance+expansion speed.

There is just more space being added in between us and them, as if we were on a plane of stretchy fabric or on the surface of a balloon being blown up. From their (the other galaxy's) perspective, we are doing the same exact thing, as well as every other thing that is observable to them.

*words of someone who is not an astronomer, nor a scientist.