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[–] Wooster@startrek.website 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

12 hour shifts certainly isn’t helping any either.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Knew some nurses that did 3 12s and then had 4 days off. Seems like it could be nice on one hand.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

My neighbor works in the NICU. She does 3 12s. She then does two more for the overtime pay. I don't think she's the exception anymore.

It's horrible to watch someone burnout just to support their family..

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until it ends up being 5 12s in a row becsuse they are understaffed...

[–] flicker@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is me!

The 3 on, 4 days off, 4 days on, 3 days off cycle of 12 hour shifts is what I do as in-home health care for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities!

And as a manager, I absolutely do get stuffed into covering 5 or more days. During the pandemic I was doing front half days (Sunday Monday Tuesday) back half nights (Wednesday Thursday Friday). And it's hell!

They increased our pay to $15 an hour in my state as an emergency order so we could finally get some staff, but it's impossible to get enough people and don't even talk to me about quality...

[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro our warehouse workers start at $20/hr full time with benefits, you're not getting paid enough.

[–] flicker@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I know. But I literally take care of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. As in, cerebral palsy. As in, if we quit, these people will have no care.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but you'll get called-in for mandatory ot on day one off of four; which then turns into a back-to-back. then for good measure, your last day off will be cut short as you're called-in early.

[–] hpca01@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

IDK my gf works in ICU and loves it, she works 6 days straight and gets 8 off.

[–] SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es 2 points 1 year ago

12 hour shifts aren't all that terrible, as long as you actually get off on time and are paid well for working the appropriate amount of time (whether that's 3/4/4/3 or 5/2/2/5, or 2/2/3/2/2/3, or any other schedule that gets you close to the standard hours per week). I've done 12s for about a decade, and haven't had any problems with it aside from occasionally running into schedule issues because it's hard to predict what day you'll be working/off without calculating which week of the pay period it is.

It all returns to how much work you have to do in those 12 hours. Having even a few minutes of downtime repeatedly throughout a shift has been going the way of the dodo, and that's going back to the original point of poor pay and fewer people to do everything needed.