I was sent this map without a source but I thought it was impressive nonetheless. It shows the SeaWorld parking lot in yellow. The green dot is where Orcas spend their lives.
edit: This is Seaworld San Diego, California
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That's why I don't like zoos, sea world or similar
To be fair a lot of zoos also act as rehabilitation centres or sanctuaries for animals. These zoos either rescue animals and while they are being rehabilitated are on display for education, or sanctuaries for animals that would otherwise die in the wild so they can live their life in comfort.
I don't like sea world or zoos either. Also all the shitty safari places which breed wild animals so tourists will pay to see them.
But it's also a weird position for many zoos who have now become sanctuaries for animals. My zoo, over the past decade, (according to their website) doesn't buy animals.
During the pandemic, the cops raided some mansion of some drug lord and all the exotic animals were given to the Zoo, where they can live out their lives.
I think by law, all zoos should follow that philosophy and not be a tourist money making scheme, but a sanctuary for wild animals that were stolen by rich fucks.
You need a place where people can interact with animals so they can start to appreciate them. Not ideal for those animals, but not doing it will be worse overall.
So humans need irl interactions to show empathy?
Have you interacted with humans? How can you ask something like that?
Only when i'm forced to.
With a keyboard.
Yes a lot do, example A... gestures at the US.
Hard to have empathy with what you don't understand
Agreed... you still don't require irl contact afaik... is grasping the concept of making animals suffer bad so hard to get unless you actually see animals suffering?
I tried to point out that we can only protect nature when people actually want that. Because it costs money and is inconvenient. How do you get people to like nature and not want to destroy it actively or passively? Zoos are one such way. There is no human-animal interaction that is inherently neutral or positive, it is always in some way bad for the animals.
the Philly zoo does a really good job with this as well. all the enclosures are actually decently sized, the animals are well cared for and happy, and they have an overhead tube around the entire zoo for monkeys and such. I let me season pass lapse as it was quite pricy but it every time I went I knew it was well worth it for an actually decent zoo that's about a lot more than just money.
I went backstage at the Dolisney World Aquarium as part of a Scuba experience, and they said they didn't have any say on whether the cetaceans on exhibit stayed or were released to the wild. They were all animals that had been injured at sea and were there for recovery, and a third-party decided if they stayed or went.
There was one manatee there they expected to keep for life because it always either rode on other animals or propelled itself by pushing off walls.