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[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I know what Social Democratic parties were, I'm trying to explain to you that some people were already disillusioned by what you call communist parties before the Bolsheviks had their revolution. I'm telling you I had family members who were part of the revolutionary proletariat before the Social Democratic communist split and by the time the first world war ended they were already disillusioned with the whole ideology.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but I don't really think that's universal.

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml -2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

It was a big part of why the Nazi party came to power and why so many people didn't fight back against it people were so disillusioned with politics and the socialist parties had lost a lot of trust.

By the time fascism was on the rise they were just in survival mode because they'd already seen one war and just wanted to survive the next one. It's was hard to get a bunch of people to fight for an idea that has screwed them over already. It definitely wasn't the right thing to do but it turns out not every one is a hero when it comes to fighting oppressive regimes even if they don't like them. Enough people will just keep their heads down and try to survive.

History isn't something that just takes place in books it happened to real people who also play a role in shaping its outcome. The only reason I'm still doing leftist stuff is because I met Eric Hobsbawm (or im pretty sure it was him) and I promised him I'd keep fighting for a better future.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

No not the SPD, just out of interest are you american?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Gotcha. Either way, I'm aware that activism can be draining and it can be easy to become demotivated.

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

More than just draining politics can get you killed. I edited my other post so idk if you saw it but just out of interest are you american? You don't need to dox yourself it's why I didn't tell you which country I'm talking about, but you were close to guessing which social democratic party I'm talking about.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yea I'm not going to press you any further, I'll edit it out of my comments. Yes, I'm a Statesian.

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Its cool, don't worry about it if people know a lot about history they'll probably be able to guess from the context and most intelligence agencies already know who I am if they wanted to come for me they could. I just don't need to make it explicit 😀

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ah I figured you were american, don't take this the wrong way but I feel like you guys often treat European leftism more like an intellectual exercise than what it actually was which was a mass political movement that touched millions of peoples lives in different ways. Millions of people lost their lives families were torn apart whole countries were dissolved or they gained their independence. I don't think the United States has ever really experienced anything like it since the civil war. The twentieth century is moving further and further away but for lots of people the political systems it created and ideological conflicts had very real effects on the people who experienced them.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Believe me, I'm not a Eurocomm, I'm very aware of the lacking Statesian left and the weakening of the movement in Europe.

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 hours ago

I think you missed the point of what I was saying and idk what you mean by eurocomm. Anyways it's late and I'm tired I probably won't be back for a while because posting is dumb, so bon voyage fellow traveller.