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I would love to be more environmentally friendly but unfortunately the financial cost of entry is too high. The answer isn't to keep making gas more unaffordable, it's already way more expensive to drive an ICE car than an EV. The issue is the people the carbon tax hurts the most are precisely the same people who can't afford to buy something electric. There have got to be other ways to incentivize the switch for people who can afford it (and therefore don't really notice a few extra bucks to fill up) while not overly punishing those who can't. Maybe we should be putting a tax on new ICE vehicles proportional to their pollution, and put that towards a means tested/non-luxury ev subsidy so that they become viable to those who wouldn't otherwise be able to afford a new car.
Kinda hard to feel sympathy when it seems every other ICE vehicle is an f150
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Should the fact that people like trucks take away from the unaffordability of every other vehicle? I'm sure if you only counted EVs since the rivian and lightning were released you'd see a similar proportion of trucks. Until you can get decent condition EVs under $10k there will be a group of people who are simply priced out of the market.
We can't even get ICEs under 10k these days, it's wildly unthinkable to expect we'd manage it with EVs.
As for everything costing more, this is capitalism, every business out there is trying to extract every dollar they can from consumers. Until and unless a paradigm shift happens (ex: we stop trusting the private sector to solve issues, like housing for instance) we'll keep getting what we've been getting.
I should've clarified I meant used under $10k. There will always be a segment of the population that can't/won't buy new just like on the high end there will always be the types of people who can't keep a new car more than a year or 2.
Why is it always about cars with some people. They don't seem to accept that alternatives [can] exist, and could start using them.
The carbon tax is currently 14.31cents per litre, that's about 10%. It's an incentive. To fully wipe out that cost, you don't need to buy an EV, you could drive 10% less, or buy an ICE vehicle that is 10% more efficient (or some combination). That's very easy to do in a country where most of us drive large vehicles, and make too many un-combined trips. Drop one trip in 10, or combine it with one of the other 9 and you get to spend your rebate money on beer instead of gasoline.
Subsidies and special taxes are super in-efficient. Besides requiring a whole slew of bureaucracy to administer it, it never applies to everything fairly. That tax you suggest on new ICE vehicles doesn't dissuade anyone from parking their jacked up f150 one day a week, and it doesn't reward the person who buys a used car for their commute instead of a used SUV. All those little decisions get incentivized, and they allow people to make their own decisions about how to pollute less, instead of doing the 1 thing some government has decided to be the official, subsidized solution.